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  • Hopefully you've been doing well the past several weeks during this Corona Plague, Mystic. I decided it was time to start a new conversation because of how long our last conversation was getting. I watched plenty of anime & other stuff & replayed some Sonic games while isolating myself. Part of why I didn't send you messages for 3 months is because of how hard it is to send messages on these walls with it failing to go through 90% of the time.

    I figured out the best way to revive Shonen Sonic, we know that Sega's most popular in Japan through Arcade Games right? That made me think why not try to launch a new timeline for the Adventure Games with an arcade fighter that will later be expanded on through a full console version? I'm thinking the story could be a fusion of EggMoon Saga with Sonic Battle only a bit different & new stuff added in for its story like the Search for Shadow.

    The Gameplay would be like a fusion of Sonic Adventure, Sonic Battle, & Sonic the Fighters for the actual game itself, although the Arcade Fighter version would lack the Sonic Adventure aspects & most of the story. The Arcade Fighter would promote buying the full game whether you win or lose & serve as part of the way to get Sonic popular in Japan. We would get Honey the Cat back with an Adventure Redesign & she would have a twin sister named Candy with both of them living in Japan & being made to appeal to Japanese audiences.

    Playable Characters would include Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Big, Cream, Honey/Candy, Espio, Tikal, Chaos, Emerl, Metal Sonic, *Shadow, & Rouge for the Arcade Fighter itself with possible expansions for the playable cast being added later if the game is popular enough. Sonic's Story would establish itself as starting only a few hours after the conclusion of Sonic Adventure 2's Last Story, as a result he would still be wearing the Soap Shoes. What do you think of this idea Mystic?

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    • I'd rather not have any new timelines after Sonic Mania started it's own timeline for no apparent reason other than to keep the Classic-cucks happy.

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    • Sorry I haven't been all that well the past few days, Mystic. That's why some of the stuff I say seems crazy. Watching Lots of Anime is probably part of why I miss the days when the Sonic Series was Shonen & took itself seriously, to such an extent. The "Modern Timeline" betrayed the Adventure Fans harder than the Classic Fans ever were by the Adventure games. Keep in mind that the Sonic Advance Trilogy existed with Sonic Advance being much like the 2D Classics.

      Besides the Sonic Timeline was a lot more complicated in the Classic Games than it has been since the Advance & Adventure games. I wouldn't be surprised if we already had 5 timelines & were only aware of 2 of them because we were so quick to claim they weren't canon. Besides now that we have Movie Sonic, I wouldn't be surprised if Sega decided to make an entire multiverse for Sonic, which Archie actually tried doing. Also if the Adventure Timeline were to be to Sonic X what the Archie Comics were to SatAM, would it really feel like an entirely new timeline that came out of nowhere?

      This time next year we'll probably have gotten information as to what Project 2021 will be like for the series. Still the 2010s Decade was too drastically different from everything the series was before it & I fear that they could prevent the series from actually getting a return to form that actually lasts. Without a separation from "Bad Joke Sonic" & "Epic Hero Sonic from the 2000s Decade" being established I don't think we'll be able to have Sonic feel like the series it was in the 2000s. Hopefully you can understand Mystic.

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    • There has only been the one timeline up until the end of Sonic 3 & Knuckles where the timeline splintered. Apparently this was caused by Sonic Generations but this was only retroactively confirmed in Sonic Forces to explain Classic Sonic's presence.

      I'd rather not go into it, explaining the timeline in SOnic's games is just a hassle.

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    • Not counting the differing futures seen in Sonic CD for each zone, the bad ending of 8-Bit Sonic 2, or the various what if routes of Shadow's Game there are at least 5 Timelines featured in the games. While everyone knows about the Modern & Classic Timelines there are a few others. There's the Chronicles Timeline which can never be revisited because of Ken Penders. Then there's the 06 Timeline which was confirmed to still exist in Sonic Generations. Next 1 could potentially argue that the Sonic Boom games are confined to their own timeline.

      I agree the Timeline in the Sonic Games really is a hassle to explain Mystic & in some cases is a matter of debate. It should also be noted that Sonic X was a retelling of the Dreamcast Era that went its own route after the Adventure Games & featured exclusive characters. I'm not even going to try to go into timelines existing in the comics. I was saying in my previous response how the 2010s Decade games were vastly different from all that came from the 2000s in terms of story & how not even the Main Classic Games treated the characters or tone the way Sega of America did the past 10 years.

      Sonic 2's Japanese Manual mentioned how civilizations were destroyed by abusing the power of the Chaos Emeralds throughout history. Then 1 of the manuals for 3K mentioned Chaos & both of those aspects were expanded upon in the Story of Sonic Adventure. You know I have to explain to people on Youtube how Sonic was never meant to be what it was during the 2010s right? I tell them how Sonic was supposed to be Shonen rather than a silly cartoon animal series & how the Main Classic Games never treated themselves as jokes. Restoring the Sonic Series just to half it's former glory will be a difficult task, Mystic.

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    • It's a bit more complex than that.

      For starters I don't regard Sonic X canon. Each Sonic cartoon usually establishes it's own continuity. Sonic X even retold the Adventure games in it's own way.

      While some Sonic games have alternate endings, they're either dead-ends or not regarded canon. For example Shadow's game has ten different endings and once you finish them all you get the eleventh "true ending" which made the other ten endings moot.

      Sonic '06 did this paradox thing which reset the timeline from the begining point of the game but did not splinter it. Though would be cool if Mephiles returned than to have Infinite.

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    • Mystic, you're forgetting how Crisis City appeared in Sonic Generations meaning that it still exists. You should also keep in mind that 06 had Sonic & Elise keep faint memories from the game. I'm fine with the bad endings being considered dead-ends or noncanon what if situations. Sonic X may not be canon, although it was made so that it could have been potentially considered canon. X fixes a few plotholes from the games nicely such as the moon incident, & the entire Knuckles following Gamma to the Egg Carrier.

      We can only hope Project 2021 ends up being the game the Sonic Series needs & not another disappointment. I have fears that we'll just get another Sonic Forces & Sonic Mania 2, or a remake of the Adventure Games that fails to live up to the original games. Mystic do you ever wonder what this series will release over the next 20 years & question if you can still call yourself a fan of the series in 2030 or 2040? If we just keep getting more of what we have been getting then I probably won't be a Sonic Fan anymore in 2030.

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    • Crisis City's involvement in Sonic Generations was mostly because Sonic Generations was a tribute game. Though technically the events that happened are still regarded canon so yeah, that is a pass for Mephiles to return.

      Another pass would be the Phantom Ruby's ability to open portals to neighbouring dimensions so summoning whats left of Mephiles on the '06 timeline could also work.

      I have a good feeling about sega for the next few years. For example while they're not directly making their own games they're trusting their IPs to other studios to remake games for them. We got Alex Kid in Miracle World DX, Panzer Dragoon remake, VR Space Channel 5 and other Sega classic games reintroduce for modern audience now.

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    • Mystic I finally managed to send a message to DeCool. He's still got it out for me, & told him that if he's just going to be unreasonable then I will put my faith in the Admins. I warned him that if he demotes you or any of the other admins who supports my return it would prove him corrupt. I stated how his decision last year was made out of personal hatred towards me & explained that I don't want to have to fight him.

      I think I'm just someone that tends to be hated in Sonic Communities. People are just annoyed by me & I have to be careful at all times or my enemies will use a single mistake to get rid of me. I try to be nice, although the more active I am the more likely I am to make people not like me. That fear that I will only make new enemies is why I try to avoid being too active here.

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    • If there are people who will use any bit of loose thread as an excuse to unravel you then they're usually the people you'd want to avoid in life.

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    • Some things can't be avoided though & DeCool is more dangerous than ever. Personally I'm glad FlippantFeline stopped things from getting out of hand. It's agonizing as I want to be part of Sonic News Network, although my exile isn't going to end.

      We should probably change the subject though, have you been doing well Mystic? I have been enjoying plenty of Sonic Art lately & been trying to be a good member of this community while trying to be careful at the same time. I gave supportive comments on a few fan characters I found by chance over the past few days. Still I worry that something could go horriibly wrong here if I get too comfortable.

      I have been watching plenty of stuff the past few months & am currently thinking about my Sonic Fanfic Stuff. I'm probably going to do what Freedom Planet did for my Sapphire Water characters someday. I don't think I will ever be able to accept the person I am, although I will try to improve my reputation however I can.

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    • Not much to report on my end. Been doing well. Been playing PSO2 of late.

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    • Kind of wish I could play PSO2, I don't have a gaming computer & the game is only available in Japanese for Switch so far. I still blame myself for some of my friends just vanishing without a trace. I commented on a few of Max's characters today & I think it would be awesome if MikuAmy became an alternate costume for Amy someday officially.

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    • If you got Steam, you can get it for free. Given Sega took their sweet time porting it over to the west it's a rather dated game now so you don't need a cutting edge gaming PC to play it.

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    • WaterKirby1994#1034 is my Discord, we should probably talk there because the Admin here doesn't like us using the Message Walls. I don't want to risk getting blocked here Mystic.

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    • Bah, I don't want to log into Discord. I'm not a Discord sort of person.

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    • We can't keep using the Message Walls here if we want to talk freely. Do you have anywhere you want to chat other than here, News Network, or Discord, Mystic? I don't want to upset the admin here again by having conversations that don't belong here. If you send me a friend request on Discord, I will accept it.

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    • Dude, we don't have to talk all the time. You can still use the MEssage Wall to chat every now and again just not all the time.

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