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  • Alright guys how can we resolve this issue with unnecessary crossovers? There are too many pages on this wiki that just outright shouldn't be here.

    Some Examples

    Random Fate Series stuff?

    Pokemon stuff with zero mention to sonic whatsoever


    We need a policy to limit how much crossover should even be allowed (if any) so these types of articles can properly be handled and removed.

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    • I agree. I don't mind anthro crossover ocs that actually fit in the sonic universe tbh.

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    • Ditto, my dudes.

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    • What about species from other series being re-imagined as mobians?

      Cuz I'm a wee bit guilty of that, It's just not up yet.

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    • Leeprower1012 wrote: What about species from other series being re-imagined as mobians?

      Cuz I'm a wee bit guilty of that, It's just not up yet.

      If it makes sense then there's no real issue. The problem is that people are creating pages that blatantly belong on a different wiki entirely.

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    • They must somehow at least be related to the Sonic universe. Otherwise they should not be here.

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    • OK, Scutes the Goji is a mobianized Godzilla species who's somehow connected to the mystic melody and the chaos emeralds.

      Would something like that be OK?

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    • Juely wrote:
      They must somehow at least be related to the Sonic universe. Otherwise they should not be here.

      Yeah, it's silly if it has nothing to do with Sonic. That like putting OC's from ANOTHER fanbase on an offical site. Will you delete the unrelated ones, or just leave a warning? It looks a bit unprofessional if you don't get rid of them.

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    • Leeprower1012 wrote: OK, Scutes the Goji is a mobianized Godzilla species who's somehow connected to the mystic melody and the chaos emeralds.

      Would something like that be OK?

      I mean if you actually have the ties to the sonic universe in your article then sure, I see nothing wrong with that. That's actually kinda creative compared to just dumping characters from another fan universe into your stuff.

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    • You'd be surprised how many things from that series you can connect to sonic without being stupid and ridiculous.

      Like, seriously.

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    • There's a difference between making an actual connection, and the pages I linked.

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    • I know, I was just asking and pointing out to whoever made those pages that connecting isn't that hard.

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    • Agreed. This is the SFW. Why is this stuff even here?

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    • How about we say something like this?

      Crossover articles must meet the following requirements:

      • Must have a clearly defined tie to the Sonic universe.
      • The article must focus on their tie to the Sonic universe, not their other universe.
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    • That sounds good.

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    • Yeah, I agree with ya. If it has a tie to the Sonic Universe it's fine, like Mobianized Pokemon, but anything else is just weird and makes it more complicated than it has to be.

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    • Gamedezyner wrote: Crossover articles must meet the following requirements:

      • Must have a clearly defined tie to the Sonic universe.
      • The article must focus on their tie to the Sonic universe, not their other universe.

      Sounds good! I agree with Lee and Reens here on this.

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    • Some of those pages should probably be deleted as they are directly plagiarizing other wikis and guilty of stolen art.

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    • Ditto.

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    • This sounds good, but do tell, What will become of the otheer Pages? The ones that have nothing to do with Sonic, will you delete them? Because on one hand, it makes sense, because it doesn't fit the rules, However, just deleting something in cold blood is kinda a douchey thing to do.

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    • if they don't meet those rules once their possibly passed, then they don't belong on the wiki, simple as that. Probably will be deleted.

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    • Hmm, Makes Sense.

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    • With all things considered, yes. Crossovers including sonic should be much more focused on sonic and some clearer ties to the sonic and at the very least, mention sonic. But still, some things id recommend for th7s include to be logical and thorough as to how the universes crossed over into one another. Some crossovers dont really lull this off right, so this may need to be emphasized.

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    • sonic focused c/overs only

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    • Since this a Sonic wiki, if it's not focused in the Sonic world, it doesn't belong here. If it's a Sonic character designed as a Pokémon, Digimon or inspired by other characters, explain on the character page. Otherwise we'll think it doesn't belong here.

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    • EllietheDemon wrote: Since this a Sonic wiki, if it's not focused in the Sonic world, it doesn't belong here. If it's a Sonic character designed as a Pokémon, Digimon or inspired by other characters, explain on the character page. Otherwise we'll think it doesn't belong here.

      That is definitely a logical approach, but perhaps we could be a tad bit more lenient with characters from other franchises being turned into mobians or stay they way they are, but at the very least touch a little bit on 5he others characters wirld by explaining how they got to sonics world for whatever reason.

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    • Just a little addendum here, we should limit the number of universes crossing over with sonic to 1. Largely because a lot of popular franchises have a plethora of characters, and if multiple universes are slammed together, itll become too much to bare, and ultimately lead to the discontinuation of the crossover. As characters themselves are the bread and butter that help bond them together seamlessly. Not just that, but we must emphasize a thorough and wholesome plot and logical meaning, and some crossovers lack this, and ultimately lead them to be rushed, abrupt, and nonsensical.

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    • Nitrogen, I have two questions about your most recent comment (the one beginning with "Just a little addendum here"):

      1. Are you suggesting that there only be one non-Sonic universe involved in a given crossover, or are you suggesting that everyone pick one universe and have that be the only universe that anyone can ever use in crossovers? (I would assume the former, but I just wanted to check.)
      2. I'm not sure precisely what the problem with having more than two universes (including the Sonic universe) in a given crossover would be. Sure, there would be a lot of characters, but even the Sonic universe itself has so many characters that attempting to manage all of them in one story would make the story fall apart, so there has to be some character limit regardless (not an official one, just that if you have too many, the story falls apart, which was what you seemed to be saying).
      • Disclaimer: I haven't actually seen any crossovers with more than one non-Sonic universe involved, so I can't look at any roleplays like this to determine whether trying to manage 3+ universes combined would definitely cause problems.

      If this is too confusing, feel free to ask me to clarify something in here. (I'm not in my most eloquent state at the moment, so there are probably a lot of confusing bits.)

      Thanks for reading all this!

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    • Wikikinetic wrote: Nitrogen, I have two questions about your most recent comment (the one beginning with "Just a little addendum here"):

      1. Are you suggesting that there only be one non-Sonic universe involved in a given crossover, or are you suggesting that everyone pick one universe and have that be the only universe that anyone can ever use in crossovers? (I would assume the former, but I just wanted to check.)
      2. I'm not sure precisely what the problem with having more than two universes (including the Sonic universe) in a given crossover would be. Sure, there would be a lot of characters, but even the Sonic universe itself has so many characters that attempting to manage all of them in one story would make the story fall apart, so there has to be some character limit regardless (not an official one, just that if you have too many, the story falls apart, which was what you seemed to be saying).
      • Disclaimer: I haven't actually seen any crossovers with more than one non-Sonic universe involved, so I can't look at any roleplays like this to determine whether trying to manage 3+ universes combined would definitely cause problems.

      If this is too confusing, feel free to ask me to clarify something in here. (I'm not in my most eloquent state at the moment, so there are probably a lot of confusing bits.)

      Thanks for reading all this!

      To answer Q1: I dont mean by the wiki has to vote unanimously on one universe to crossover with sonic. I mean the individual who makes the crossover he/she wants to make be left to one non-sonic universe of the individual's choosing. Say for instance i was interested in a sonic crossover, and I wanted to crossover with some other franchise like Mega Man, or Transformers even. I'd stick to one that Id feel confident about crossover with. Primarily a franchise that said individual knows a lot about, and could synthesize a way from them to do so.

      And for Q2: Yes, my intention was to address that too many characters in a crossover can cause it to crumble. Some people Ive seen mash characters from so many franchises that its practically impossible to keep track of whats going on. Not to mention some people could mash 3, 4, or more franchises into a crossver, and do whatever.

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    • Thanks for answering my first question! That was a very clear and useful answer.

      As to the second question: I understand that having too many characters could cause stories to crumble, and that having a crossover between multiple universes would increase the number of characters that writers might be tempted to use. However, I see two problems with limiting the universe number on crossovers to avoid the too-many-characters problem:

      1. People using too many characters seems to be a problem that would apply to even non-crossovers, so just limiting crossovers wouldn't stop people from using too many characters.

      • For example, take Sonic Riders: Off the Ground. If it were a story, having 36 characters (not counting the 6 crossover characters and 26 super forms) would be too many.

      2. This problem seems like something that could be avoided even in crossovers.

      • For example, if there were a three-universe crossover with two characters per universe, that wouldn't crush the story under the sheer weight of having so many characters.

      By the way, would you mind providing a link to a crossover where there are too many characters only because the story is a crossover? You don't have to, but it would be useful in helping me ascertain why having ≥3-universe crossovers would be problematic.

      Thanks again for that nice answer to my first question!

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