After a year, we have another survey. Here you go!
I understand the importance of quality, especially in a place with a history like ourselves, and to be fair, I probably would've voted for these updates a few years back, but in the mindset I have of this place today, these revisions aren't the solution. We really shouldn't be adding more bureaucratic barriers to a small community like ours that is already struggling to gain new, regular users.
These proposals are not only unnecessary but rank with blatant distrust in the community's ability to make content that is pleasing to read and look at. It also severely neglects the creative expression that makes our pages here unique, not "good" necessarily, but unique.
Furthermore, and this is my own gut feeling, standardizing the content here makes us feel less like a wiki and more like a catalog, as though we're just jotting down descriptions and other arbitrary bits of metadata to be fed to a computer and not a person.
Akri are you ever capable of being serious?
Yes, and I'll explain.
There is a noticeable decline in the wiki's user activity, it has been seen and predicted for years, meanwhile our admin numbers have stayed mostly the same. While you might question admin activity, most of our users here know to undo vandalized edits, mark pages, and ask an admin if they run into problems they can't fix themselves, and those admins act in a timely and efficient manner.
Additionally, any tech needs around the wiki can be forwarded to me. I own an app company providing solutions to about eight businesses in the North Kansas City area, I'm pretty fucking sure I'm reliable. I can say with certainty you may argue what I, a business owner, am doing on a Sonic Fanon Wiki, I'd would like to recur the same argument to a man in his mid-twenties, who is engaged, and is writing web apps for a car insurance company and making about the same amount of money I am.
Our wiki has changed its management to compensate for the lowering of new, active, users, we're no longer an organized wiki government that enforces bloated, rigorous standards for the sake of "cleanliness" and "efficiency," we're a small community dedicated to sharing and creating content from the Sonic fandom.
Your administration style is not compatible with us anymore, you are very bureaucratic, project based, and uniform, a little too uniform as you tend to want to do everything yourself. I'd also like to mention that your behavior at times can be extremely questionable, but I won't hold that against you as I know mine are too.
It has been six years since we first met, I've become much more serious during that time, and I have no problem explaining what I think and why I think that way.
Thank you for your attention.
I think we should refrain from this sort of non-voting discussion which I apologize for starting, so I expect it to end here. To answer your statements, I uphold the template's validity for the reason you stated, it holds acknowledgement. For your question about the template, that is normal, it simply MediaWiki caching your posts.
I think it is a useful and unique contribution to a page's design and feel. It incites mood, and can fulfil the tone of an article very delicately. I think the only issue is that some people can embed their videos and change to zero, likely used by the creator of this template to incite negative reactions by playing meme-related music. On the other hand, fixing the position of the template itself and making height static to prevent people from doing this could be a useful compromise.
I agree with Flash here, we don't need to add 9-10 more admins to accomplish a task that you can alleviate by doing it yourself or asking an admin if you don't have high enough permissions. Admins shouldn't be the puppet masters pulling on the strings, ask any of the paid staff of Fandom who keep Wikia running and they will tell you otherwise.
We are volunteers, it is hard to find volunteers at a moments notice, and on top of that, 9-10 more admins constitutes the remaining amount of users who are susceptably and visually active, it is a standard that we quantably can't keep up anymore without promoting users who don't pass our requirements for staff positions.
I will look at setting something up that merges the wiki activity with the Discord, hopefully that can help with alleviating issues with negligence.
We don't need more admins. Admins are elected based on workload, not numbers. If the wiki can be easily managed by three people, we don't need more, it just increases the avenues for corruption because the rule abiding citizens are the ones who make the rules.
After a year, we have another survey. Here you go!
Edd Shwartz wrote:
I'm sorry for getting snappy, but you were being unrealistic. It wouldn't have been that much work.
You get very easily threatened by things you don't understand, and I get that, either way, I don't see this passing through with all the negative feedback it has gotten.
Why are you taking such offense to this? Jesus, now I remember why I left this place.
Did you not read my main post saying the bot would remove it? I get that people assume that computers are magical and don't have any measurable science to them, but finding a pattern and replacing it with blank characters is something I learned how to use in code when I was 11 years old. Also, adding a template is as easy as copy and pasting a string onto a page.
Copy, go to page, press edit, paste, press submit, repeat last four steps however many times you want. It's that simple.
Also, instead of an exempt template, maybe just make an edit to it. Like, change a comma, then undo the edit yourself. Then it won't be picked up by the bot since it's based on how long it's been since the last edit.
I don't like having to edit a page twice or go through revision histories, effectively pressing at least 5 buttons at a time, to finish a task that could easily take at least 2 button presses. Also, I don't see how it is an unfair advantage, this is effectively web maintenence, not a racing game, it serves as an insurance policy for those who will be missing during the purge, and as far as marking a ton of shit early goes, that shit is going to get marked later, so, may as well do it sooner.
Create an exempt template for people who don't want to wait. Then when it is all over, have the bot make a second pass and remove all the exempt templates. Or just do it during the first pass and just remove the template when it gets to it without removing the page itself.
Also, give users a week before the move, to remove their pages from the category, so they don't have to relocate their pages all over again. To my mind, that'd be more intuitive than deleting the entire thing.
Edit: I'm doing this because people are clearly not reading the blog and I'm making fun of them.
I didn't bother to read the rest because I think deleting pages is a bad idea, maybe we should move them to a separate wiki for archive purposes, like, move them to here.
Alphonse Uprising wrote: Now I want to join a random school RP only to shoot up the place. Thanks Emerl.
SHUT UP EMERL, YOUR FOX TAIL IS GAY AND YOU'RE A FUCKING FURRY