Talk:Splice The Hedgehog (RPG Fangame)

It sounds good! I can't wait to see what it will be like!Beware The Blizzards...

Thank you. Look around on Youtube to see a few videos of it.~Smash The Echidna~ 00:19, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

ive seen some of the video's. there very good. do you guy's make all the sprite. the edited one not sonic's and chara's like that?  Santer Quills  in  da  HOUSE   00:10, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I'm srry man but this involves to much of the original characters, I disapprove of this.(-Battlelord7's approval) go to hell 00:15, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I just edit the sprites. We edited them all ourselves. And also, Don't take the fact that the original characters are in it to be some sort of super generic adventure like most of the fanfics you see around the internet. (cough4kidscough) You don't know the whole story. There isn't enough said about the story for you to give a proper judgement about it. I brought in the original characters to

A: Give it more substance as a game.

B: Give it a more Sonic like feel.

C: Give Eggman the glory he deserves.

D: Eggman actually proves more importance to the story as a villain than you would think, and it would be impossible to go without him.

I'm not trying to change your mind about your opinion, I'm just defending my stand here.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 00:25, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

you've got skill's i'll give ya that  Santer Quills  in  da  HOUSE   00:35, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I still have a lot to learn about sprite editing. I'm no master, honestly.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 00:43, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

To be honest, I usually don't really like OCs being in the story like this, but I let it slide this time. 06:21, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

I've added a little more to the page. I planned to release a demo soon.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 00:01, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Smash-san Long time no see! This looks so cool I'm not much of a programer but is there anyway I can help with this? Black Chaos rise again! 06:15, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Don't worry, I believe I can handle this for now. But if I do have something, I'll ask you okay?~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 06:23, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Okay good luck! Black Chaos rise again! 17:01, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Well, its good to know that people are right behind our backs if we ever need them.~Kapus/Hyper the Hedgehog 18:46, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it is.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 01:24, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

If anyone's interested, I added a video gallery the other day.

hey Smash.............since i thought it was so much of a hassle to try and get my own Sprite of a kirby on here (which by the way still hasn't worked) um could you help me by making him for me please? "FEEL MY WRATH" 03:56, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not taking sprite requests. I can never get them done. I have too much on my busy schedule as it is.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 04:08, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

I FINALLY managed to get an extension of the song "Full Force". It's the game's battle theme. It took me a long time. I could never find one, nor could I extend it myself since the song ended too soon before it even finished looping, so it didn't work. I am very lucky to have come across this.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 07:24, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Can you look at Station Square (after sonic adventure DX) for the model of Station square and also if it's possible could you have Twerunka jungle for a secret stage for after you complete the game? Sonicfan919 04:43, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Er...Why?~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 04:47, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

I would do it myself but I don't know how. Sonicfan919 04:51, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, But this isn't a group project that you can just throw your own stuff onto. You can add suggestions, but everything goes through me first. I already had plans for Station Square, and I don't know if I'll be able to add that other place either.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 04:59, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Can you at least tell me where to find the program? Sonicfan919 05:33, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Whether you mean the game or the RPGMaker 2003, No can do. The game hasn't been released so I'm not giving it out, and I can't find the RPGMaker on the internet. You'll have to google it and hope for success.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 12:50, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

It's okay I just found it but It's too hard I intend on downloading the XP version. Sonicfan919 16:59, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Getting Back To Work
I've been taking a long break. It's been nearly a month since the last update. As soon as I finish a couple of other things I've been working on, I will try to get back to work on this game. I'd lost all my motivation before, but thanks to my friend Daz, It's starting to come back to me. Daz and I are working on a little music project together. (He's making the music, I coach him.) And his music most likely will make it to this game. Listening to the stuff he came up with has brought my motivation back up little by little.

Now, Let me just write out a little To Do List for this game.

1: Completely refurbish Splice's house. Includes: Fixing the Stairs, Changing the furniture around, aligning the floors properly, possibly rearranging some rooms, Add the basement and secondary Treasure Room that never got connected to the house, Possibly some other things along the way.

2: Finish Sonic and Crystal's charsets. Sonic's needs a quick once over, and Crystal's was never completed. Includes: Jumping, Climbing, Swimming. Possibly the same treatment for Tab, since Kapus is busy with oh so many other things.

3: Remake the insides of the shops. Includes: Drug Store, Armor Shop, Burger Joint, Harry Chao's Rares(slightly), Flower Shop.

4: Add NPC's to Green Flower City. Includes: Few original designs, few generic designs. Species; Hedgehog, Fox, Cat, Squirrel, Very few Echidnas. List may grow overtime.

5: Begin Construction of Station Square. Includes: Continuation of the Story.

Five major things that I need to do. Even with all of that down, Green Flower City will still not be fully complete. I still have other things I need to do there. To list them, they are:

1: The Hotel by the Beach. 2: Hedgehog Park. For Petes sake, Hedgehog Park. That place was the first thing I'd been putting off since before this game even came to be. 3: The continued part of the Docks. 4: The Post Office. 5: The Library. 6: The Department Store. (Which might be a bit redundant, seeing how there's already a Drug Store for medicine, Armor shop(which burns down, by the way) and a Burger Joint for healing items. But hey, It could work.) 7: The Hint Shop. (Flame/Ignition's appearance.) 8: The Western Outskirts of Green Flower City. (Where Frost lives.) 9: City Hall, which ceases to exist. I have to put it somewhere. I think I'll put it in place of the Mall, which is yet another redundancy. 10: The insides of Speedy's, Smash's, Tab's, and Lucy's houses.

This is like twice as much as the five major things I need to do. Unlike the majors, These things can wait. (although I think that I can do the Hint Shop while remaking the other stores.) I can easily get back to these things as I'm coming back around to Green Flower City storywise. Although places like City Hall, and the department store, I don't know if they'll have any importance to the story so I'll have to find some time for them.

With that said, I should be getting back to work soon. Very soon.

~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 13:42, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

I will soon post a video showing the newest updates. I just added the under water stages feature recently.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 09:28, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Saw this on youtube,maybe you should let some people add their characters,but choice wise who's character you want in this game,anyway this game is cool.~Tailsman67~

Also can I have some tips on making a RPG game and can CS3 make RPG games?~Tailsman67~

No. No. Bad idea. I've already let a few of my friends make cameo appearances, and even two others have their characters playable. This game has like over 20 playable characters. To go over that is too much work.

Anyway, thanks.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 23:29, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know what CS3 is. What kind of tips are you hoping for?~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 23:30, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Wish i new how to edit and do stuff like this One more soul to collect. EternalAbyssJustice 00:13, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Edit what, now?~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 00:16, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

The sprites and all that. One more soul to collect. EternalAbyssJustice 00:21, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Oh. Well, it's not too hard. Practice makes perfect. =P ~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 00:31, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sequel 0_0?! Starring Smash The Echidna o_o?! The game revolves around and is named after the currently ongoing RP: The Mystery of Skull Cross O_O?!COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!XD~Tailsman67~

Do you have a rough estimate of when this will be finished? Sonicfan919 04:08, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately not. It's pretty much just me working on it technically, though I've asked people to help with stuff like pics and sprites, etc. I'm nowhere near finished. The game's going to be pretty long.

Though I'm thinking about releasing it once I reach the end of the game, and then releasing a newer version with added content and new quests that open up after you beat the final boss. Think of it as a sort of "Final Mix" like in the Kingdom Hearts series.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 04:11, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Will there be a demo? Sonicfan919 04:12, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

I already released a demo elsewhere, but it was so glitchy I didn't release it anywhere else. I've been planning to release another demo once I fix up some more stuff. Mainly Smash's sprites and some other things here and there. I also plan to redo some of the skills and other stuff.

Also Speedy's getting a makeover. I can't say how big it is because I'm still waiting on my little brother to get his new design down. But I'd prefer not to release the demo beforehand.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 04:16, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Just curious, will you have an actual credits at the end of the game? Sonicfan919 22:36, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Of course I will. I mean, That's kind of required. I'll get flamed and boo'd off the stage if I didn't. I've been thinking about how to go about it for a long time now. ~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 22:38, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Another question,will there be a secret ending? Sonicfan919 22:40, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know about SECRET endings, but there are multiple endings depending on your actions. There's the Good Ending and the Bad Ending. The Bad ending stops the game earlier than it should, but you can go back and continue there. But when you get to the real end, where the Good ending should play, you get the worst ending. There's also a Best ending, which is basically an addon to the good ending if you beat the game 100%.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 23:04, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Best ending would then sort of be a secret ending then. Sonicfan919 20:25, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Well, True..~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 20:42, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

If Kapus can make the character, then I will officially boot Icicle from the cast and replace him with Lucy The Cat.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 04:01, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Where is this RP you call The Mystery of Skull Cross?~Tailsman67~

Okay, so I've been taking a break from working on this game for a little while. But now I'm getting back to work. Don't ask why, but I'm starting with the Cat Chao Garden. Anyway, I'm gonna upload some new videos of some songs I got for the game, remixed by my friend. They'll be up later today.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 11:46, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

When will this be downloadable or at leat a demo User: Apallo The Hedgehog 18:34, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Please do not ask me this question. It will be downloadable when it's ready.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 18:41, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Hey if there is a sequal can Apallo or Shock be in it this is shock: "Hi Im Shock"

No. Sorry, but no.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 04:31, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Awwwww Thats ok ill look around but do you know any one that could help me make a game im a Noob at it

User: Apallo The Hedgehog 17:50, August 22, 2011 (UTC) ~ABOVE17:50, August 22, 2011 (UTC)~

Well, my motivation to work on this game has finally returned.

Talk about crappy timing. I probably won't have much time to do much with this game for a while. -.-; Oh well, at least I had the time to redesign a boss, but it's a shame that it's actually one of the final bosses, so I can't really show it. ~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 10:37, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Back To Work
I'm going to try to resume work on this game, at long last. I've already done a few things here and there. But most importantly, I have decided that I should make it my top priority to complete every character in the roster. That way, I could easily (I hope) arrange the database in a way that would be easier to deal with. Of course, rearranging the database is a big chore of itself, as you need to change events linked to the things that are being changed, and make sure you don't miss any. The database is rather messy because I decided to work on several characters at once while progressing with the story. This isn't really the best of ideas, whether you like being organized or not. It'll start out organized, but sooner or later things will get out of hand.

That's why I need to do one thing at a time. Constantly I've had to search through an entire section of the database for a single thing. (these ranging from battle animations, monsters and monster groups.) It gets tiring, especially if you really can't find it.

So I'm going to work on the characters. I will not only finish the ones that aren't complete, but fix up and refresh the ones that are. Some characters will undergo a few changes in their skills. For example, Splice may be given a few more melee attacks. A few of Smash's skills will be replaced: Quick Blow has been changed to (a MUCH more useful skill) Bone Crusher, which is both stronger and lowers an enemies defense. Meteor Smash will be replaced with Divine Fist. (It always bothered me how he could summon a meteor from space...)

And Speedy? His whole skill list is scheduled to change.

And while I'm doing the characters, I also need to make all the weapons and items for them to equip. This means that I'll be working on making all of the Elemental Rings compatible with everyone.

Alongside this, They all still need their field sprites finished. More than half of them don't even have simple walking sprites. And most of the ones that do need to be fixed. Even Splice needs some work, here.

Right now I'm writing out a "To Do List", going into detail of what I need to do with every single character. I have an older one here, which I may refer to, but at this point a new one is in order.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 22:45, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Wow I can't wait for the second game!:DSonic1000 22:50, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't say anything about the second game. o.o; At this point I'm not even sure if there's gonna BE a second game. ~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 22:52, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Oh,well if you need help with anything,call on me,or Tailsman67 cause I will be working on my game.:DSonic1000 22:56, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 23:02, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

It would be nice if u guys took the time to do reviews of people's fan games to see if any one onf them are good nough

when you do release it, i shalt enjoy playing it, until then i shalt wait and slowly delve into the deep abyss of insanity. why? because madness is quick enjoyable.  Forge master Shadow-Flare  00:25, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

I find editing this page to be somewhat awkward because I'm not really sure where to put the actual updates. =/ I guess I could put them here in the talk page, but the main page needs updating every now and then, too. I think the way I have it laid out is a little awkward..This page may get a complete makeover if I figure out a good way to rearrange things. ~Smash The Echidna~ http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 03:22, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

There are a ton of things about the plot that I'm currently trying to fit into this game. I've already written out the story from start to finish, but there's so much I left out along with some new things I want to add. I've been looking up and down the document I saved of it, trying to figure out where to squeeze in the pieces of the story, but I haven't gotten much done at all. Now I think I know what has to be done about this. I'm gonna be spending some time re-writing the whole story layout. No, I'm not really changing anything; I just need to make a fresh new draft. This'll probably take a long while, so I most likely won't be getting much spriting done. (not that I've been getting too much done lately, anyway. >_> ) I'm hoping to be able to add in all that I had in mind.~Smash The Echidna~  http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 17:16, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

I'd forgotten that all the video links in there are dead. =T I don't really feel like going through each one and fixing them right now though. Though this whole page actually needs a makeover. I'll get around to doing that later.~Smash The Echidna~  http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100421224452/sonicfanon/images/0/04/Smash_life.png 00:32, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Awsome!!!! I wish i wuz that good at makeing fan gmaes!!!Mailjesuru 22:20, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

I noticed that there was a screenshot of the fangame with some graphics from EarthBound, but no credit for Shigesato Itoi. I know this is kind of nerdy and not much people care about credits, but still.

-Fastpager200 [As an anon, as usual]

Tell me, does this game need a music creator? I would like to help out a bit, if I can. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  23:28, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, after looking near the bottom of the page, I take it that you don't. Haha. I'm sorry :P  PhysTheEchidna  ( talk )  23:31, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Nonononon waitwaitwaitwait don't leave yet! D:

My main guy for that is taking a really long hiatus from remixing, and it's unclear whether or not he even plans to get back into the business. And I'd asked someone else to help compose original songs, but so far he's only made one, and that was well over a year&a half ago.

So yeah, I kinda do need someone to fill in a spot. Either way I'm always open to anyone willing to help. Tell me, what can you do for me?~Smash The Echidna~  02:10, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I haven't done anything much like this before but I recently started composing small random tunes... I play piano a LOT and so I know a lot about music and how it works. Did you guys really only compose one song? Well then, I'd be happy to make a few short tunes for you. I don't have any good recording software, but I have enough to make the quality reasonable. I have an midi program, so if that's acceptable you can get some quality but I doubt it's the best at its job.

You could always get me something short to work on, we'll give it some time, and if you like the results well... Whaddya reckon? PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  11:26, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I think the best way to start would be to show me an example of what you can do. How about making a rendition of the game's main theme? I've always wanted to hear the song played on piano.

But that's just my suggestion. You can do whatever you want so long as I get a good grasp on what you're capable of by ear.~Smash The Echidna~  21:48, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Sure, if you want to start with that I'll go for it. Obviously I won't use just piano if I end up making some of the songs (unless you want me to), but since I love piano I agree that it's a good place to start. Unfortunately I'm doing homework right now so I can't listen to the theme at this very moment, but I will as soon as I can. I'll see if I can come up with some other stuff too based on that theme and anything else I can find. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  21:58, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Great, looking forward to hearing what you can do. ~Smash The Echidna~  22:12, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Wait... it's just the Sonic Mega Collection Plus theme? I viewed like the first minute or so of some of your other videos, and found that some of the music I'd heard before (I recognized some Super Smash Bros. music in that dojo :D) and some of it I'd never heard before (but that doesn't mean it's not from a game I don't have). So, how much of this game's music is original? I'm not saying using pre-made music is bad, I'm just interested to learn more and see how much I can help :).  PhysTheEchidna  ( talk )  23:44, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

(Forgot to log-in, mate.) Yes, it's just the Mega Collection main theme. I have like, 3-4 different remixes of it for different occassions, though I haven't uploaded any just yet. The best one would have to be the heroic mix. (I'll show you just as soon as I figure out how to upload an audio file directly to the wiki.)

Most of the soundtrack consists of remixes. There is only one original song in the game; A road through the earth. I was hoping to get more original songs, some with bits and pieces of the main theme in them, but that didn't really happen.~Smash The Echidna~  23:55, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, that's a cool theme... I'm still pretty shocked that there's only one. I could easily make some soundtracks like that (minus a lot of those choral voices, I mean honestly), it's short and catchy which is just my thing. If you want, I'll give a shot at a tune or two and see if you like it. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  00:10, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed by the lack of original tracks. The guy who was doing them got caught up with college and I haven't heard from him since. (Though he was the one who composed it, it came out as a midi originally and I had my remixer, Daz, take it and finish the job in adding the chorus.) ~Smash The Echidna~  00:14, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Well, we all get busy at times. I'm kind of busy myself this week, but I'm nowhere near college age yet. It's pretty safe to say that I'll have time to work on this every so often, but you can never tell. Well, give me a topic, such as an environment (forest, mountain, volcano, Eggman's base etc.) or whatever and I'll get a start on it sometime soon. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  00:23, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Alright, let's see. How about a theme for Fox Forest? It's a generally peaceful place just outside Greenflower city, meaning you technically shouldn't encounter any enemies there at all. ~Smash The Echidna~  00:27, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Great! I'll hopefully have like a draft or something done over the long weekend, but I'll try to start earlier if I can. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  00:37, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again. Also, I've figured out how to embed the music here. Let's see if it works. ~Smash The Echidna~  03:10, March 27, 2013 (UTC)



Well, I got "Missing Plug-In" or whatever, but I downloaded it and it sounds cool! I also wanted to ask, when you put music in your game, does it have to be under a certain file size and/or under a certain length? I mean, it doesn't really matter with what I'm doing now but if the pieces I make end up being in the game, well... PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  11:17, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry about that. Just go all out.~Smash The Echidna~  16:02, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

You got it :).  PhysTheEchidna  ( talk )  21:52, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

You may have already fixed this, but in your Splice the Hedgehog Part 1: Introductions etc. video, when Splice picks up the first treasure chest and recieves the Silver Ring, it says, "Thats worth 25 rings." It should be "That's worth 25 rings." Just thought I should let you know.

I honestly don't remember if I did or not, but thanks for pointing that out.<font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  23:18, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

I finished Fox Forest, I think. For some reason when I converted it to mp3 from the midi I made, the bass part became inaudible. I really don't know why and I'll try to fix it sometime but the end result still turned out well. But I guess if you think this would be better than the version with the bass part, then that's cool cause we can move on :P.

Well, I've now converted the mp3 to ogg like you did for the Heroic Theme. I'm not sure we'll get the same sound out of it as we would if it were an mp3, but it sounds the same on Audacity so here goes nothing...



PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  17:08, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I think it works. Hope you like it, let me know if you think that bass part should be re-added. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  17:10, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

Hm. I like it. It still sounds slightly midi-ish, but it's a good song. My curiosity says that you should try adding the bass so that we could do a comparison. Also do you think you could put up a download of the MP3 before you convert it to an OGG? If the quality changed a bit, then I'd like to hear it before converting the ogg back into an MP3 for me to use. (The RPGmaker doesn't support OGGs sadly.)<font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  21:46, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

It's great that you like it. That's my first full song. I guess I'm a better VGM composer than I am at writing "actual" songs :P. Only took me two days too.

Yeah, I'll work on finding the problem with the bass now. See, it is in that version of the song, but it's just completetly inaudible and I don't know why.

I doubt there was a change in quality, it sounded the same in both versions. But if you still want the original MP3, there's a problem. I don't have any accounts on anything that would allow me to post an MP3. But like I said, using an online converter should be fine. Unless you're okay with converting it, we'll need to find somewhere where I can post it.

By the way, if you don't think the song fits Fox Forest enough, tell me. I'm fine if you want to use the song somewhere else or if you don't want to use it all, or if you want me to redo it. I mean, this is the first time I'm doing this. There's bound to be stuff that just doesn't work. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  16:09, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

I doubt the bass makes the song much different... but here it is anyway.

I didn't want the bass to overtake the rest of the song so I just made it so that you could hear it easily. So like I said, probably not that much different. Hope you like it anyway :).  PhysTheEchidna  ( talk )  16:46, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

It's a small difference indeed, but I believe I have a use for them both. Thanks again.

Anyway, If you can't send them as an MP3, then that's fine. It's not too much trouble for me to convert them from an OGG. <font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  16:56, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I forgot. I could email it. [phystheechidna@gmail.com]. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  16:58, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Nah, it's fine. I can live with converting the oggs.<font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  17:06, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

If you say so. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  17:16, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

If you want, we can start on the next song. I have a couple of ideas in mind for what I'd want. <font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  13:06, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

I'm ready when you are! I'm quite busy at the moment (research paper :O), but I always have time to squeeze in, especially on weekends. I've found a way to make my midi program compatible with another music program, which should give the new songs better quality and sound. It also enables for way better synth and techno noises. Of course, it'd take slightly longer to get everything made but in the long run it's probably better. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  23:56, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry about how long it takes; I won't be getting to the scene where the song plays for a while. Speaking of which, the song I want will be called something along the lines of "Reminiscence: The Black Rose Orphanage". Basically it first plays when you learn of Splice's backstory, which is a pretty dark and troubled past-time. Originally, I was going to use this song instead. So, you can probably get a general idea on how it should sound, and use that as a sort of inspiration. I also considered using this theme as well, from the same game. So, maaaybe you could mix the styles a bit and come up with something befitting.

<font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  00:10, April 10, 2013 (UTC)

Those tunes do fit the situation nicely. Well, I have my work cut out for me then :).  PhysTheEchidna  ( talk )  00:20, April 10, 2013 (UTC)

Great! I'll look forward to what you can come up with.<font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  00:21, April 10, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, while you're waiting, why not check out some of my piano work? I'll see you later. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  00:48, April 10, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, that was pretty good. You're pretty good with that. Also that was actually my first time hearing that theme. =P <font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  01:22, April 10, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I have so much work on my hands right now to compose anything major. In a week or two, I can get back to it, and over the summer I'll have so much time to dedicate myself to it; but for now I have to continue my school work. Having said that, I have started on some stuff, so once school is all cleared up I'll have plenty of ideas. Later then. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  14:24, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

Ah, that's unfortunate. =/ Well, good luck with your studies. Take your time and thing's will work out fine.<font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  17:11, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

Alright. The work has cooled off enough that I managed to come up with something. Shouldn't be long now. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  23:34, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

Glad to hear it! I've been sick all week so progress has been slow on my end. Luckily I'm just about over it all though, so I'm gonna be trying to make up for lost time.<font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  00:01, April 26, 2013 (UTC)

Good. Looks like we'll both be making up time over the summer then ;)  PhysTheEchidna  ( talk )  00:19, April 26, 2013 (UTC)

Almost done with it. It only uses piano and strings, but I reckon in this case it's just what we need. I have a couple of other kickstarter ideas down too, so I may be able to work off them based on what you need. I'm also working on a remix of Ice Cap Zone, and if you like you may use that too.

Anyway, I just need to do some file changing and stuff and I'll be able to post it :D. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  17:08, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

Here we go. I hate how my programs delay the strings so that they sound a bit spliced up (pun intended) when played in succession. Still. Here it is:

The file names don't support colons >:(. Well anyway, hope you like it.  PhysTheEchidna  ( talk )  17:31, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

Sweet! I think you nailed it. It has a hint of sadness, but it also sounds really kind of dark and depressing. It really shows how much the Black Rose Orphanage has hurt him (and so many others) over the years.

Great job. First chance I get I'm putting this on my MP3 player and getting it ready for in-game use. I won't actually raech that point for a while, but still. Thanks a bunch.<font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  18:48, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

o_o You like it that much? Awesome. You made my day. See you later then :)  PhysTheEchidna  ( talk )  19:28, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

I did not originally intend for this to be used here, but if you want to use it you may. :)  PhysTheEchidna  ( talk )  22:41, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

I've always liked Ice cap's theme. This is a pretty good take on it, but I think I may have my ice themes in order. We'll see though; it's far from too late to decide.

If you want, and if you've got time, we could start on the next OST.<font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  22:44, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

It was only my first remix. I'll get better at some point.

Well, unless my dad feels better tomorrow and wants to go on a day trip, I have another good day tomorrow. We can start whenever you like. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  22:52, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

With practice, you'll get better. But I wasn't saying it was lacking. =P

Anyway, I really need proper theme for Crystal. I know I recently heard something that sounded extremely fitting, but I don't remember what it was. In any case, I used this as a placeholder. It only kinda fits. Her theme should be happy and bubbly, but it should also have a few calm, tender, and sweet moments in the song. <font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  23:14, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

O_o That is very happy and bubbly... You must like the themes from Phoenix Wright. I've never heard any of them before.

Well yeah, sure. I'll see what I can come up with ;)  PhysTheEchidna  ( talk )  00:35, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, Phoenix Wright has a good soundtrack. I've used/planned to use a few songs from it. It's a good series. I'm going to move on to the third one soon.

Anyway, thanks. Can't wait to see what you come up with.<font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  00:38, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Third one? What do you mean, third game? PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  00:40, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I mean the third game in the series. I just finished the second one. (well, it was a while ago, but you get the idea.)<font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  00:42, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Oh I see. I thought you meant you were gonna move on to listening to music from the third game, which would have implied to me that you were sifting through every single song in the series. That would be tiring XD. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  00:44, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Lol no. I'm not that crazy bored. XD <font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  00:50, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

I know, I know... that's why I was confused :P. If you were ever bored, you just work on your game. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  00:54, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Okay. I learnt something about myself doing this. I don't think I'm good at happy pieces. Well, maybe I am in a sense, but... put it this way. I can play Fox Forest and Reminiscence on a piano perfectly, but I honestly made 90% of this one up on the spot in my .midi maker. It's just easier to make a happy tune that way.

Anyway, this probably fits some area more than it fits a character. Please don't be afraid to make me do another theme for Crystal because, to be honest, I'd almost prefer to do that.



Sorry it took a week, I didn't have any time after school to do this so I mostly did it in the mornings before school. And another thing, my parents have decreased the amount of time I can spend on the computer because now I spend more time on it for leisure than I do homework. But that shouldn't be a problem, I'll just do more of the composing on my keyboard from now on.

Well, later :)  PhysTheEchidna  ( talk )  18:34, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

Alright. This is a piece I'd had in mind for a long time, and it didn't take long to arrange and mix together, so I actually have another song for you today. I called it L4UNCHED (the word is launched, in the unlikely event that you didn't understand) for no reason at all (I really don't know why I called it that... it just sprang into my head :P). I guess it's because you didn't name it for me, unlike the other ones. Anyway, feel free to use it wherever you like.



By the way, I looked into quality and all that like you were wondering. I figured out that all my .mp3s and .oggs are 128 kbps, so as long as you convert it at that rate it shouldn't lose anything. Cheers! PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  19:36, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm...They're both good songs, I think. But yes, I believe Crystal's theme should get another chance. Speaking of which, the beginning of her theme sounded really familiar to me.

Also, this may seem like a random request, but do you think you could send me all of the midi's of the songs you've made for me? I like to keep them around in case a chance comes when I can have them remixed again, for multiple versions. You can send them to me in a PM on Youtube. <font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  00:55, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Okay. I will re-do Crystal's theme, this time on my keyboard :P. For the part that sounds familiar, well, I only ever listen to the soundtrack from Sonic games and I'm not familiar with many other songs, so if something sounds too familiar to you, let me know because it's likely to be a complete coincidence, as was this one.

Regarding the midis, I didn't even know YouTube PM's could send that stuff. I'll look into that. Also, you may want to know that the only complete midi is Fox Forest, the others I added the drums and stuff in using Garageband. Reminiscence is pretty similar, but the old Crystal theme doesn't even have the right instruments :P. Anyway, I'll take a look at them and fix them up, and I'll send 'em over. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  11:41, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Uhh, I don't think there's a way to send midis on YouTube.... Is there? I can't find it, if so. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  11:50, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

The reason I said Youtube was so that I wouldn't have to give you my email here for you to send them to. I could give you my email on there, or you could upload them to Sendspace.com and send me the download link. <font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  23:07, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

I understand your uncomfortability (not a word but whatever) with posting your email directly where everyone can see it. I've never heard of sendspace.com, but I'll go check it out now :).  PhysTheEchidna  ( talk )  23:11, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

http://www.sendspace.com/filegroup/Y%2BKrYqzluT4aE7XjEuSZz6JhW3cSPWa9 I believe I did it right. These are all the midis before I modified them in GarageBand. Basically they have all the parts, but some don't have drums nor all the instruments playing those parts. Also, my program doesn't play the sounds exactly as it would if you played it on a regular midi player.

While we're on the subject, do you have the midi of A Road Through the Earth? I was trying to work it out on my keyboard the other day. If you don't have it it doesn't matter, I was just wondering. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  23:29, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll have to download it when I get on my main computer. As for A Road through the Earth, Yes I kept that midi. It's on my laptop, so it'll still have to wait. =P I'll send it to you when I get the chance.<font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  23:36, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Good to know I did it correctly. And great, thanks for that!! I didn't like the piece a whole lot at first but then I started humming it at school... Aaaand then I liked it XD  PhysTheEchidna  ( talk )  23:41, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Do you have an idea of what you want Crystal's theme to sound like? Or maybe what instruments you want in it? I'm kinda using the same idea from the previous theme right now, but I'm changing the way it sounds and I'm making it less random (and I tend to like songs that are less random, so maybe I'll be more confident about it this time). If there's anything you want in particular, tell me, because it helps put a bit of a picture of the song in my mind, even if that's only by a little bit. Cheers. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  00:12, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm...I'm not entirely sure what I'd like. I think it would be fitting if you added bits and pieces of the Chao Garden's theme and the Chao Race Lobby theme. The instruments should have some piano and flute or ocarina to it. You're free to add more as you see fit, but those two/three should definitely be in.<font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  00:25, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Great!! Thanks for that. I'll try and get this done as soon as I can, but of course without rushing it this time :P. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  00:28, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Alright, great. Thanks again, and good luck.<font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  00:32, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Status update: haven't made anything over the weekend unfortunately. Crystal's theme hasn't been recomposed yet; I just have zero ideas for the current basis, so I'm probably going to scrap what I've done and start again. If we can find some way to communicate by video, and if my parents allow me to do such a thing (I won't be able to show my face if so, and I wouldn't do that anyway), then I can play some stuff on my piano keyboard and you could tell me what you like. That would be efficient, but of course you've already shown me your concern for your privacy over the internet and I completely respect that and understand if you do not wish to go ahead with that kind of thing.

I'm also working on a couple of remixes. If you want I'll post them here too, in case you want to use them. Well, later. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  12:18, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

I see. In this case, the best thing to do would be to get Skype. It has a voice chat we can use. I'm on there as smash-the-echidna.<font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  13:55, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

Many of my friends and associates have requested for me to get a Skype account. I haven't confronted my parents about that yet but I'm sure it'd be okay. Well, I'll get back to you if/when that happens. PhysTheEchidna ( talk )  19:57, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

Alright, sorry for not getting anything done for you last week. I'm currently in my exam period. Yep, that means I'm completely free in a week or two :D.

Anyway, I haven't asked my parents for Skype yet. The reason? Dad's on a work assignment in another country. And he usually has the final say over that kind of thing, so I'll have to wait until he comes back. Shouldn't be too long.

Also, I did come up with something new for Crystal's theme. I'm gonna arrange what I've done so far at some point and give that file to you so you can check that out in the meantime. Then if you like it, I'll continue on it. How's that sound?

And finally, my new Sonic 3 Boss Battle Remix! Your YouTube videos show me that you have a lot of boss themes already (by the way, I did listen to the new soundtrack you posted. Sounds like Daz's getting back into business), but anyway. Here it is.



That's all for now. See you later :).  PhysTheEchidna  ( talk )  00:16, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

Alright, take your time. I can wait. Glad to hear you came up with something. I actually had just remembered what that other song I thought could be used for inspiration was last night...Sort of. It was either one of these three songs. Pretty sure it was the last one though, but they're all good and full of piano. =P

Also, none of those songs I uploaded from Daz were new. I've had them sitting around on my computer for a long time, I just hadn't gotten around to uploading them since my movie makers were being screwy. So, as far as we know, Daz is still on hiatus. Also, I'll listen to your song in a bit and get back to you on that.<font color="#0000FF">~Smash The Echidna~  00:27, May 22, 2013 (UTC)