Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-3190872-20121225192722/@comment-3190872-20121226011707

KaiserDarque wrote: Dark/Ice as "Wraith" is slightly rubbish.

So's "Cryogen" when Kagi and Flash already had "Nitrogen".

Shadow-Flare suggested Obsidian for DarkEarth, but that's much better for DarkIce.

FreezeFlame? That's silly, IceFire is good.

Water and Nature being Plant? Nature already IS Plant.

Rejuvinate? [facepalm]

Gamma? REALLY? Radiation was perfect.

Beam is silly.

Neuro was fine for PoisonElectricity. Suggestion is rubbish.

Dark and Water could be Blood, which already exists. All that takes is a redirect.

And frankly, I don't think a "complete overhaul" is at all needed. The pages are all already mostly complete, and all they need is a slight update and the creation of ones that haven't been created yet. A lot of users put a lot of hard work into those pages, and to overhaul them for no particular reason is stupid. Wraith didn't need changing. Nitrogen was simply remaned to Cryogen. Obsidian is up in the air. FreezeFlame is more creative than IceFire. Nature and Plant are not the same thing, Plant is Wood renamed. If you're not going to state your objection to Rejuvinate then it isn't relevant. Gamma makes more sense than Radiation. Beam is not silly, but that's a matter of opinion. Neuro was simply renamed to Suggestion.

Just so we're clear, all of the elements written in the chart are not up for debate. Nor is the need for the "complete overhaul". I have the full support of Flash, and some support from Kagi, two of the three people originally responsible for the elements. Ryu is currently less than easy to get in contact with, so she was unfortunately unable to have her say. After all is done, if she objects, I will consider making changes. But for now, what's written is final.