User talk:Fairfieldfencer/Project:SatAM Season 3

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 * Attention! This project will not be started until I say so.


 * Sonic the Hedgehog - Ben Hurst Interview (Part) 1
 * Sonic the Hedgehog - Ben Hurst Interview (Part) 2
 * The reveal for Season Three.

The above two videos are from the SatAM DVD boxset, which featured an interview with Ben Hurst on an extra disc. In it, he describes crucial points for how SatAM was developed, how they were thinking, and what they were aiming to do in each episode. We shall share these while writing. You will have also seen the big reveals of what was going to happen in the third season of Sonic the Hedgehog. We shall bring them to life in our own way. You two are some of the most talented writers I've had the honour to have met. You've shown you can write professionally and greatly. While the three of us are working together, I want us to be a family of sorts. We support each other, help each other out. If we're in a jam on how to portray a character or have a better idea how another's idea could work, we tell them and make these episodes the best we can. I want us to make Season Three using what Ben has already set. Ixis Naugus as the new villain, what would happen to King Acorn and Robotnik and Snively. We are to finish the unaired season, and if things go well enough when we're finished, we might just make a season four. We will incorporate what Ben has thought up into our own ideas. No more ideas taken from Archie, Sonic Underground, or Sonic X. (Games are alright if you put your own twist on them, though.) We are to make the series in our own fashion, of sorts. Each individual episode will be discussed below in these subsections. Each character's development and backstory will be taken into account by all of us. Individual episode articles have been made so that we don't lose our work to edit conflict when two of us are writing at the same time.Fair field fencer F F F  18:48, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I can definitely say that this sounds like it will be awesome. I'm more than willing to use game concepts, and I'll do my best to avoid ones from the other series (however much I like them). I'm especially into the idea of working with other authors, as I've only done one collab so far with FFF, which is still in the works. I say we make a fanfic so awesome Sega will beg us to team up with Hurst and co. and do a real SatAM season three!Wiriamu 03:22, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's the spirit!Fair field fencer F F F  10:24, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds great! I've been rolling around ideas in my head and re-watching episdoes to try to get a feel for the third season. I think it'll be great fun doing a collab, never done one before, and I'll be sure to share ideas and work with everyone else's. And I'll certainly try to avoid the other continuities and stick to our own original continuity. I can't wait to work with you all and hey, if Sega doesn't beg us to make this official, we can just find a team of our own animators, right?  Jcfreak 16  18:59, April 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Depends. How much money do you have?Fair field fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  19:17, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

No, now see, don't bring money into it. That'll just kill the dream.  Jcfreak <font color="#FFA500">16  12:23, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Episode 1:
User:Fairfieldfencer/Project:SatAM Season 3/Episode 1

Episode 2:
User:Fairfieldfencer/Project:SatAM Season 3/Episode 2

Episode 3:
User:Fairfieldfencer/Project:SatAM Season 3/Episode 3

Episode 4:
User:Fairfieldfencer/Project:SatAM Season 3/Episode 4

Episode 5:
User:Fairfieldfencer/Project:SatAM Season 3/Episode 5

Episode 6:
User:Fairfieldfencer/Project:SatAM Season 3/Episode 6

Episode 7:
User:Fairfieldfencer/Project:SatAM Season 3/Episode 7

Episode 8:
User:Fairfieldfencer/Project:SatAM Season 3/Episode 8

Episode 9:
User:Fairfieldfencer/Project:SatAM Season 3/Episode 9

Episode 10:
User:Fairfieldfencer/Project:SatAM Season 3/Episode 10

Episode 11:
User:Fairfieldfencer/Project:SatAM Season 3/Episode 11

Episode 12:
User:Fairfieldfencer/Project:SatAM Season 3/Episode 12

Episode 13:
User:Fairfieldfencer/Project:SatAM Season 3/Episode 13

Development
Tails the Fox:

Ben Hurst mentioned he would find an 'awesome power'. So how about we build on the fact Tails is based off of a Kitsune? Once in his Kitsune state, he could grow an extra tail and gain a 'supernatural' power, like shapeshifting, being able to 'see' things in other places (mind traveling), just something magical.  Jcfreak <font color="#FFA500">16  18:33, April 9, 2010

Commentary:


 * I've been reading through this, and wisdom seems to be the best part since it could fathom as intelligence. With two tails, Tails has effectively lived one thousand years already. Perhaps we could merge the idea of reincarnation and say Tails has the spirit of a fox who died at 1,000 years of age. Then his spirit entered into Tails and now he has considerable intelligence in building as the fox was a Blacksmith most of his life before taking part in the Great War and dying a hero's death. To Tails, all of this comes instinctively, and explains his effectiveness as a field operative despite his young age.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  12:04, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's brilliant. The spirit... should probably name it... leaves whatever fox it was in during the war (Tails' dad? Grandfather?) and enters Tails almost as soon as he's born, giving him an extra tail. Also, kitsunes are known for being tricksters, so maybe we could have an episode revolve around that? He suddenly begins pranking everyone, causing strife between the Freedom Fighters. At the end of the episode he could decide to only trick Robotnik. Something along those lines.  Jcfreak <font color="#FFA500">16  13:50, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe we could make this fox part of a specific species. Or clan. Like say there were an ancient people called the kitsunes who were magical beings that could live for millennia. Some in one life, others within many by passing their spirit on to the newest kitsune, and some both. This fox could be a kitsune and then when he dies his experience goes to the newest with kitsune blood, Tails. As for names, how about we say he was a magician called Foxfire who made many discoveries in his long life, like foxfire plants.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  19:36, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Backstory
Proposal:

Backstory for Robotnik. Real name Julian Ignatius Norbel Monger at fifty-seven years of age. Julian was a prodigy. His mother and father were believers in Robotnik, the human god of science and industry. They named their younger son Robert Nick, believing him to be the one who would revolutionise the world and put humans back in power. Julian's parents died when he was twelve, before he could prove he was the special one and not Robert. Over a decade later, after Robert had taken a wife and son, Julian's jealousy overcame him and he killed Robert and his wife, but spared their son Sydney, so he could have a lackey to torment, calling him "Snively." Nineteen years later, they attempted an uprising on the humans but failed. Driven from their home, they were found by Naugus, who promised Julian half the planet for helping him and gave Julian the connections he needed to become a civilian of the Kingdom of Acorn and rise up through it until he became War Minister.

Commentary:


 * What in all does Snively know about this? Does he know about Julian killing his parents? This could be something great to bring out during the season. "Snively.... I KILLED your father!"  Jcfreak <font color="#FFA500">16  21:40, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm... We could have it so Snively was raised by Julian and he thought him a great and kindly person, until his true colours showed, making him hate the big round guy. It could definitely be a good twist for the series.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  12:11, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Proposal:

Naugus. He teamed up with Robotnik early on so they could rule together. Robotnik would overthrow and capture everyone with his robots and Naugus would use his magic to take control of them all using Lazaar's computer. He had tried many times to get passed the Guardian there, but failed. So he goes directly to the source. The world Lazaar got the crystal from to make his computer, the Void. And then Robotnik traps him.

Commentary:

Introductions
Darewood Woodpecker

A red woodpecker seen in the background of season one. He becomes Sally's new love interest as part of the love triangle. He's had private training sessions from Sally and is an excellent field agent. After Uncle Chuck snagged a discarded SWATbot arm, he gave it to Sonic, who gave it to Rotor, and Darewood asked him to make it into a gauntlet that shot a laser so he could be more useful on missions. Darewood now serves as the team's sharpshooter with the SWATbot gauntlet.

Comments
 * Why would Sally privately train someone? I like the whole idea of him with a Swatbot guantlet and a love triangle. I think if he is privately trained though, we should explain why. Jcfreak <font color="#FFA500">16  14:07, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Simple. He asked for private lessons to help develop his skills, and Sally was eager for a new Freedom Fighter. During this time, they grow close and a relationship develops.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  15:24, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, that could work. He asks if he can become a Freedom Fighter and Sally says she'll train him. Now for personality. How about we make him the polar opposite of Sonic? Jcfreak <font color="#FFA500">16  18:38, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Geeky, shy, quiet, and cowardly. Polar opposite is a bit too much. How about something a little like Khan? Similar to Sonic in terms of arrogance, but calmer and level-headed, more likely to think things through than run into things head first with only luck to see him through. Ian Flynn did a pretty good job of describing the type of guy Sally was interested in, whether from the cartoons or games. Though she is partial to a charming and complimentary fellow like Griff, but those characters are unpopular and ooze smooth talker. I don't want to create another Geoffrey St. John.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  19:12, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, Griff was also ugly. I like the personality and the character desing is actually really good. A sort of cross between Woody Woodpecker and José Carioca.  Jcfreak <font color="#FFA500">16  21:37, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hehe. I like the design. It certainly has untapped potential. I like it best with the blue ammo belt though. Perhaps he could also be quite admiring of the Freedom Fighters (particularly Sally) for their heroic deeds, but after a few episodes tone it down to show development and not have him be a fanboy of sorts.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  21:44, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Knuckles the Echidna

By the end of this season, Knuckles should appear. His role would be similar to in Sonic Underground but his personality would lean more towards the games. He is protector of the only Chaos Emerald on Mobius on the Floating Island, but only he knows about the other six, and where they are located. He also has the ability to shape-shift into a tall, cloaked figure with a skull-like face.

Comments
 * Oh yes. This is excellent. Gives Knuckles a mystic... shaman-like quality. Jcfreak <font color="#FFA500">16  14:07, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Amy Rosette

It might be a bit early, but how about we introduce Amy Rose? But not actually the Amy Rose, but a character based of of her. I was thinking she could be a traveling gypsy, one who reads tarot cards, makes potions and amulets and be peace-loving. I thought perhaps she could be the one who tells the Freedom Fighters about Knuckles and the Chaos Emeralds. Oh, and instead of being a fangirl over Sonic, how about we twist it around a bit? According to... something magical of hers (maybe a hammer?) Sonic and Sally are destined to be together so she's a fan of SonicxSally. She could give Sally a love potion to use on Sonic or something in one episode. The only thing is, I'm not sure if it would be too early to introduce her or not. I think if we did introduce her, she should be more of a secondary character, only being there for a few episodes then leaving. What do you two think?

Commentary:

Interesting idea, but I really think the idea of a love potion a little too childish for SatAM. A good concept overall, though. Maybe we could use Amy as a gipsy, but she isn't the one with great knowledge and power. She could travel with a whole bunch and be a one-off to return some day, if we go further with this project.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  16:45, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Plot Ideas
Proposal: Coming of the Chaos Emeralds

The Chaos Emeralds are mystical gems made from crystal in the Void by Laazar enfused with dark magic intended to give the power to destroy the world. Naugus believes them able to grant the user the power to cause absolute chaos at a whim, but he is mistaken. They are guarded by seven warrior echidnas who take the form of cloaked figures. These seven are descended from the Knuckles Clan and only eight echidnas now remain. Seven guard the emeralds, and one completely loyal to Lazaar refuses to leave his side.

Commentary:
 * Sounds interesting, but expands a little too much on a rather small plot line; Lazaar seemed like a one-shot guy. Additionally, introducing eight new characters-unless one of them is Knuckles, which would be an old one-might be tricky.Wiriamu 04:15, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Point taken, and yes, Knuckles would be one of them. Perhaps we could keep some elements of this idea, though. Like Chaos Emeralds being made from Void Crystal and that Naugus knows of Lazaar. Though it does ooze fan-fic to mention Lazaar again.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  07:59, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I like the whole Void Crystal bit and maybe even Naugus knowing of Lazaar. But making Lazaar a main character? Not so much. Maybe Naugus could mention him in a throw-off line or something. It really does ooze fan fiction and since we are trying to be as professional and realistic about this as possible, I think we should use a completely new character. Maybe like... someone who used to mentor Ixis Naugus, except he was good? Think the Obi-Wan to Anakin.  Jcfreak <font color="#FFA500">16  14:03, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Here's an idea. Naugus was created by humanity to help bring an end to the Great War fifty years ago by mixing the DNA of Mobian species together, but he proved hostile to those around him and was driven off. A firefly wizard, eager for the war to end in favour of the Mobians to cease the killing, takes in this enemy of the humans and teaches him everything he knows for some forty years. When he dies, Naugus has no one to oppose him and can do as he pleases. Then we get to Julian.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  15:39, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Excellent. Perfect mix of science and magic. And the firefly wizard could know of the Chaos Emeralds. How they were made and who made them (maybe he himself made them?). Naugus wishes to know this secret but Firefly won't tell him, thinking he may use the secrets for evil or something. Firefly Wizard dies without telling Naugus the secret, making Naugus pretty angry. Cue entrance of Julian.  Jcfreak <font color="#FFA500">16  18:48, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Proposal: Death of a Freedom Fighter

Once Naugus comes to power and boots out Snively, he strikes ferociously at the Freedom Fighters, almost completely destroying Knothole and killing Dulcy. His intention is to weaken the Freedom Fighters' spirits, but his attacks only make the Freedom Fighters more determined to fight back.

Commentary: 


 * Just want to point out Knothole probably shouldn't be completely destroyed, else it may draw unintended parallels between StH #175 and this.Jcfreak16
 * I agree that destroying Knothole completely is a bit of a copy maneuver, though I pretty much did that in a SatAM story of my own; it was later rebuilt, but that's beside the point. I don't like Dulcy myself, so anything that involves killing her or Snively is pretty much okay with me, but the Knothole thing is less so.Wiriamu 04:15, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * If we do kill off Dulcy, let's have her "protector" thing cleared up first. We could even have it play a major part in her death.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  07:18, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well alright then, how about just destroys a little bit of Knothole? A few buildings or so. And I like that protector bit Fairfieldfencer. I myself don't really see any use for Dulcy, thus writing her out. Not to mention I always saw her as slightly overpowered, being a dragon and all. This should even the field a bit.  Jcfreak <font color="#FFA500">16  12:39, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Proposal: Robotnik Now Robot

I had an idea a while back, not so sure if we should use it, to redesign Robotnik. Have him wear Eggman's costume. Reasoning for this would be Naugus wanting to pin a badge of shame on Robotnik, as the costume is worn by the lead servants in human circles, showing Robotnik just who is in charge.

Commentary:
 * Man, I don't know. I personally don't mind the idea at all. The problem is, would the fans like it? A lot of the SatAm fans will pound it in your head that the Robotnik design is ten times better than the the Eggman design. Though he looks a big Pokeball to me. So... it would be a fairly controversial move in my opinion. I'm not really sure... I guess we'd all have to think about it.  Jcfreak <font color="#FFA500">16  12:49, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * All I plan on changing is his outfit, which we could go back to at any time.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  12:50, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Lines

 * How about some snappy dialogue?

"Why don't you just tie a sign around you butt that says 'apply foot here'?"