User talk:Flashfire212

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I left you a previous message before you archived. Please read it.--Kagi mizu -Seeya 'round 04:56, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Flash. I'll do my best. Death's Little Pony 04:59, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Flash, I think it would be best to demote White. First and foremost, he hasn't gone through the proper nominations and channels. Second, he's far too passionate about the situation. When he's calm he told me that politics and admiship wasn't to his tastes. However after this he's become too passionate and gung-ho about the situation.--Kagi mizu -Seeya 'round 05:03, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I respectively ask to be demoted. I knew there was something I forgot here, and this was it. Please, and thank you.

I think it be best to block Guy permanently. It's clear he's only going to cause further issues at this rate.--Kagi mizu -Seeya 'round 05:04, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, but I would suggest lifting it before it runs its course. It's simply because of the timing of it all is really lousy. I get that Ryu forgave him, but with his record and experience, he still should've known better than what he did. Prior to issuing the ban, I asked Light, Shima, and Memph. Both Light and Shima agreed with his ban, while Memph remained neutral.--Kagi mizu -Seeya 'round 05:27, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

No, not reinstate, I mean I asked them when I put the ban in place in the first place. If you're going to let him off with 1/4 the time he was given, fine. Just make sure he stays away from me and any of the blogs involving recent issues.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 05:33, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. And if Guy's unbanned, demote White. He's certainly going to not be happy with this.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 05:37, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Um, Flash, could you hold off on that. There are various policies that need to be voted on. For one, a restriction on just how many times someone can earn and lose adminship.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 05:40, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Flash, if we hurry we'll get substandard admins. Quality over quantity please.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 05:48, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I can't edit blogs!! WTH!?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 05:56, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Flash, could you momentarily make me an admin again? I'm having quite a big of trouble with something: I'm totally unable to change the content of blogs while using Monobook! I want to see if adminship changed anything.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 06:48, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

NOTHING. I. Can't. Do. ANYTHING. Not even add an additional italic to make a correction! Could you PLEASE try editing while using Monobook? See if you can edit any of your blogs, or any blogs PERIOD. I asked White and he couldn't, but maybe you could...--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 07:06, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

To be almost excessively specific: you can edit the content of a blog, WHILE using Monobook? And it doesn't send you to "Create a new Blog Post"? You'd be able to save the changes?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 07:12, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Oh. So it's a bug of some sort. Well, that's a relief: I thought Wikia was doing something to phase out Monobook.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 07:19, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

But it doesn't edit it: you'd actually have to make an entirely new blog. So it's gotta be something wrong with it: even the people in Wikia aren't stupid enough to have something like that. And they especially aren't stupid enough to make a change like that w/o notification.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 07:27, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

......HOW? How do you change it when it goes to create a new blog post? I try going w/o a title, it says it's required. I go with the title of the blog I'm editing, it says it already exists. So what do you do that I can't?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 07:33, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

....Screenshot plz?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 07:49, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

While it's almost 1am here and I shoulda turned off the laptop at 11:30pm.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 07:53, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Quick question. We gonna continue Tred x Elettricita here or on DA?

Okay then. Maybe we should mov it to DA. My brothers tend to read my couple pages and it ticks me off.

Cool. Well anyway. I think we should. You mind?

Okay. To DA.

A message from Memph,

"Flashfire,watching all the users ban together in the clean up has spurred something in me.As such I want to be of use and to make room for a new admin in my place,I humbly request a promotion to crat.I want to do this in order to supplement Schoolbuses rare appearance.Thank you for the time for reading this.

P.S.I'm staying,not leaving.'

This is the message he ask me to give you.Hikaruyami-having fun* 17:15, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

If he wants it, I'd suggest he wait for nomination. Being a crat is big business.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 17:21, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Spongebob100: Hi there, I wonder if I can rejoin at your Roleplay called "Roleplay:Gender Switch", please?

Hey Flash, can I talk to you about somethin?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 06:27, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

G'night, Will! I love you! ^^ *hugs*--<font style="Matisse ITC">  "We don't just blow bubbles..."  -- "We blow bubbles with kittens inside them." 06:39, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

I just wanted to get something sorted out quickly. You see, as you know my second improvement blog has an admin restriction policy. The policy has gotten an overwhelming positive vote (greater than either of the other two policies), so I figure it might as well be active quite soon. However, the policy says that anyone who loses it twice can't get it back again, and well... we both know someone who falls under that description. Now this isn't anything personal or anything, but I just wanted to make sure that no unexpected complications arose later rather than taking care of them right now.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 06:39, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't really expect any malicious plans from him. Just worried about something happening to cause problems. But I am glad to see that my worries are unfounded *relieved sigh* Thank goodness...--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 06:47, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

(nods) Okay.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 06:55, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

You don't go DA that much do ya?

Owch, that sucks.....................wait, parental controls? How old are you?

.....................Oh. Okay. Australia? I never remember the time changes."I watch you from nowhere, You see nothing but mystery, "I hide in plain sight. The General of the Greatest Uknown Army, never to be known but known by all." 12:58, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Seeya, bud.

Flash, you need to block any new User with "Cillian" in their name: it's a sockpuppeting troll.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 09:48, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Alright. Also, would it be fair to have the policies approved be made official after Sunday? It's a solid week (8 days actually) after I made the blog.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 09:55, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Just deem them official, then somehow work them onto the Policy page. For now though, just calling it would be enough.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 10:03, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Flash, three things:
 * 1) You need to make the policies on my blog official; you haven't done that yet.
 * 2) Talk to SwetBrou, because they've vandalized and done a bit of trolling.
 * 3) Delete the two pics I marked for deletion, because they're stolen pictures.

Honestly, I can't wait to be an admin again (if I'm able to), because then I can handle this type of stuff myself.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 05:24, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

I can't remember names. However you should see them in Recent Changes or my contributions.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 06:35, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

New RP
Wanna join it?--<font style="Matisse ITC">  "We don't just blow bubbles..."  -- "We blow bubbles with kittens inside them." 16:27, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Spongebob100: Am I still Invited to Roleplay:Gender Switch?

Spongebob100: I'm sorry

(bows deeply) I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry. I really didn't want to bug you about this since I know how it looks, but in the end I'm just an over-cautious person who has to be sure of stuff 100% So once again I'm very sorry. As for what I'm sorry for: I'm sure you're aware that Ryu called the rules on the SFW Improvement blog as official (since you were busy, I asked her to). Because of that, I thought I should suggest removing Guy from the admin nomination list. I know it looks like I'm obsessively targeting Guy or something along those lines, but I'm not. I'm just overly cautious and while I tried keeping my mouth shut so as to not give off the wrong image nor annoy you, my better-safe-than-sorry attitude overtook me. Again, I'm sorry about annoying you about this, but in the end I just thought I needed to bring this up to you. And yet again, I'm sorry Flash >~<--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 05:20, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

Okay Flash. Again, sorry. And maybe a forum would be better? Then you don't have to deal with the hassle of counting votes, and people can give comments and reasons w/ their votes. There's also the new voting process, with admins and normal users being seperately counted but equally valuable.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 07:40, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Ohhh. Well then might I suggest delaying another day? Take tomorrow to refresh and relax, then make the forum/blog.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 07:43, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Okay Flash, good idea.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 07:45, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to bed @_@

Good night. I love you ^^ [hugs]--<font style="Matisse ITC">  ~I am the Holder of Om Nom Nom!~  "OM NOM NOM NOM NOM!!" 09:14, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Please can you make me a recolor of a blast. I want it blue with red outlineing thanks SonamyLover68

Any is fine.

Can i join Gender Switch. User: Apallo The Hedgehog 22:18, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Flash. The Featured User of the Month poll needs to be updated. So close but yet so far... from the bacon 03:51, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

I'll try not to sway off the lot and i have made a new Apallo Sprite. Im working on My Charactwe sprites but most of them are recolors. User: Apallo The Hedgehog 19:12, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

I have a problem. On a roleplay called Castle in the Sky i was banned because of someone else's edit that i didnt do! What can i do!? Feeling UpSet, User: Apallo The Hedgehog 21:26, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Flash, I need to ask you to do two things for me, if you'd be willing to:
 * 1) I've resolved to not make any new pages until I finish my current ones. Could you help me do this by adding infoboxes to my character pages that need them?
 * 2) Could you vote on my administration election? Only you and Memph haven't voted, and White and Jon have voted against, while Ryu voted for. Since I need both admin and standard user majority vote, I'd like you to vote on the status as well. One more negative vote and I'm pretty much nixed. One more positive vote and it comes down to Memph. Either way, I'd like to get that much out of the way if at all possible. Also, there are a few issues on the talkpage, mainly involving Guy's issue with the 2-admin loss disbarment, and the fact that it was originally 2-3, but a few days into the voting I finalized the limit as 2. Yes yes, I realize the connotations about that limit: I explained on the talkpage (and it was also well before Guy was banned). Also, I asked about putting a neutral section, and about nominees having the opportunity to explain why they think they deserve adminship. Could you please give an answer if you aren't too busy?

Also... I realize that lately I'm asking a lot from you Flash and, I'm sorry about doing that. Really. So, I'd also like to ask if you're at all upset at me over anything lately. So... are you?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 03:41, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

(relieved sigh) Thank goodness. It's good to hear that you aren't upset at me over anything Flash. And well, I've been on a forced break for two weeks, being unable to do anything about spam pages and whatnot late at night when there doesn't seem to be any admins on. And to be quite honest, we could have up to ten additional admins on the roster, so it would be hard for me to get stressed: the main problem was due to handling the bulk of admin duties for so long. Also, I'm glad you're willing to help me out with my pages, and dealing with the whole admin disbarment thing. Guy said he was going to talk to you about the issue, but he never brought it up apparently.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 03:52, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">(Apallo: I cant edit while im sighned on only off for somer reason) http&#58;//sonicfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Apallo_The_Hedgehog 02:32, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Then what can i do then? http&#58;//sonicfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Apallo_The_Hedgehog 02:36, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

i did and got no responce http&#58;//sonicfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Apallo_The_Hedgehog 03:16, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Wanna join?--<font style="Matisse ITC">  ~I am the Holder of Om Nom Nom!~  "OM NOM NOM NOM NOM!!" 03:24, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

I cant edit any thing on there at all now! http&#58;//sonicfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Apallo_The_Hedgehog 19:29, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

dude now im getting the same messages from you! and if you can t see it i said now it wont let me edit anything at all! http&#58;//sonicfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Apallo_The_Hedgehog 19:34, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

I got to go to bed now. *hugs* Good night. ILU ^^--<font style="Matisse ITC">  ~I am the Holder of Om Nom Nom!~  "OM NOM NOM NOM NOM!!" 03:10, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Kinetics
I don't know if you're the right person to direct this concern to, but I really think that the Kinetics page needs a revamp. I left my concerns on its talkpage if you want to look at that. Yeah... it really needs work. My function is not my purpose.  My purpose is to complete my function.   ~Xi  16:54, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

i still cant edit and i still didnt get an answer http&#58;//sonicfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Apallo_The_Hedgehog 22:12, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Hey dude. =)"I watch you from nowhere, You see nothing but mystery, "I hide in plain sight. The General of the Greatest Uknown Army, never to be known but known by all." 01:01, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Flash, I thought it best I bring something up to you. Namely the articles Onyx the Leo and Saber The Leo, two sorely lacking articles. Both were created with extremely horrible grammar befitting 10 and below (I fixed the grammar on Onyx the Leo), with extremely low-quality recolors. Several people (Xi, Shima, Ryu,, Ult/Precursor, Jon, White, and myself) believe these articles are beyond redemption, and deserve only deletion. While they have Construction templates, there's a point where common sense has to take precedent: neither of these Users will be likely to bring these articles up to par anytime soon, if ever. However, Guy has gotten quite aggressive over the manner. If you look at and/or restore the talkpage for Onyx the Leo, you'll see that he acted in an aggressive manner towards all others involved, and even threatened to have me banned (how, I don't know). When Jon decided to delete the articles, Guy apparently threatened to report him (to who, I don't know. You and Ryu aren't likely to demote him for this, and Wikia Staff wouldn't get involved in something this small-scale). Guy has even gone so far as to create his own Diamant the Leo article, with a blatant low-quality recolor and lacking in construction and quality compared to other articles. This uncharacteristically low-quality article and Guy's attitude leads me to believe that Guy is purposefully making an issue out of this whole thing, and/or attempting to get a rise out of people. Could you please take care of these articles personally, and if you feel the need to do so, do something about Guy's conduct over the issue? Thank you Flash.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 01:14, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Well after Ryu messaged me about the grammar suddenly becoming as good as Guy's, I addd it up myself. Regardless of being a test, the fact that you yourself say it's trolling, and the fact that it involves sockpuppetting, I have to ask if you're going to let Guy off on this. Test or not, he was no right to do this (obviously no authorization from you, Ryu, or Memph), and is blatantly breaking policies.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 01:26, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

How have you been. Sorry I haven't been on DA in the morning that much.

Well, your pretending to be Vikus was a long time ago, before it became an issue. I was under an unjustified ban that for some reason couldn't be lifted, so I had to use an additional account. Norma made a new account in an attempt to change her username and get a fresh start. I'm sorry Flash, but even for Guy this is way too far. Sockpuppeting for one, in addition to threats against both me and Jon, and- as you said yourself- trolling. That's three offenses, from a long time User who should seriously know the limits and the rules of this wiki! You can't seriously let him off for doing something like this both to his fellow Users and the wiki itself.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 01:37, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

I'm good."I watch you from nowhere, You see nothing but mystery, "I hide in plain sight. The General of the Greatest Uknown Army, never to be known but known by all." 01:42, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Flash, I would've said this if it was White, Norma, or even you. Look at my first message on this: until I found out he was an actual part of this, I only wanted you to talk to him, and even then it was only if you felt it was necessary. I just wanted someone who Guy couldn't intimidate or threaten to delete the articles, and that's all. But after finding out he was likely a part of this.... too far Flash. Even for Guy, it's too far. And look at the Elemental Tournament RP: Ryu said that Saber and Onyx's grammar "suddenly got as good as Guy's". That means he either brought those people to the wiki, or he is those people. You know me Flash: I'm not stupid enough to let someone make me so pissed I take out a vendetta against them. If I did, the ban I gave Guy for his actions towards Ryu would have been permanent. And even then I made sure to ask three other people if I should carry out the ban. A vendetta, this is not.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 01:47, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

A problem with the theory Flash: I acknowledge the fact that I fight with Guy. I do everything to avoid it now. When he threatened to have me banned, I dropped the issue like it was hot, and decided to wait until I could get you, a steadfast bureaucrat, involved in the situation. I hate fighting with Guy, because I hate what it does to the wiki and my friends. As for hunting down his friends, I'm afraid that's likely impossible. He's been on forums for 10 years Flash. Ten years. The people, friends, and forums he could have gone to are too many to count. Besides, he could have contacted via e-mail, or deleted whatever forum comment/thread he used to get help. But the fact that Guy made the Diamant article without asking, and the fact that Saber and Onyx suddenly had grammar "as good as Guy's", makes it pretty clear it can only be one of the two: either he got help, or did personally.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 02:00, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Being contacted and willingly taking part in this makes Guy just as guilty as if he was the one who thought it up (both morally and [at least in the U.S.] legally). Flash, I would like to think that Guy has some level of decency- and no, my account hasn't been hacked and I haven't hit my head- so pulling something like this is, as I said, too far. Even for Guy. That's why I said that I believe Guy should be banned for his actions, and shouldn't be let off.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 02:18, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Flash, I've been thinking about this issue of Guy being accused of Sockpuppetry, and I have to say I agree. Kagi's like the Boy Who Cried wolf, and every time he cries "Guy" and "ban" in one sentence, everyone figures it's his vandetta and turns a blind eye. But, should he prove guilty of sockpupettry or trolling or breaking any policies, why not deal with it the same way we always have: a vote? Death's Little Pony We Ride! 13:09, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. Guy's also always going on about how only Kagi and I have a problem with his...shenanigans, this way we can see how right he is. Death's Little Pony We Ride! 13:29, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Interesting. On what grounds do you have to block me? Because of the possibility that I helped provide a picture for a bad article? Interesting, I wonder where in the policies that's stated. But to answer your question and statements, the two users who created Saber and Onyx are friends of mine from what of the roleplay forums I inhabit, hence their otherwise great roleplaying skills. Their articles are lacking because they are not familiar with how Wiki's structure and templates work, and I am in the process of teaching them. The picture for Onyx was done by me because Onyx didn't want to spend time making an MS paint edit while he was practicing his drawing skills, though Saber made his picture himself. Diamant's picture is a placeholder and a joke to fit the trio as three badly colored characters which, last I heard, was never against policies. They're in the process of having proper pictures in due time. In the mean time, unless you have any definitive grounds to threaten me, I suggest stepping away. -- Guyviroth -   I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for what I'm not..  19:51, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Rosemary is an Anti-Moebian Melissa the Hedgehog   Her enemies always fall before her!  19:59, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Input Requested
I've recently done some work on my newest character, Duke "Deuce" Zocker. I know he's currently not up to standards, but I would like to get some feedback on him, particularly on his abilities. Would you mind taking a look? Soulfyre. Be weary of it. 20:45, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Flash, I saw for myself how Saber and Onyx's grammar changed exponentially. The grammar on their character articles was atrocious, and the pictures were eyesore recolors. Yet on the Elemental Tournament RP, their grammar and roleplaying quality was as good as Guy's, and we all know how much experience Guy has with Roleplays, particularly in literary style.

Secondly, Guy has very high standards for character articles. If Onyx and Saber were serious about how they made their characters, Guy wouldn't show them the wiki at all, or even associate with them. Yet seeing how skilled they are at writing, as evidenced in the RP, then the crappy quality of their character articles was intentional. Not to mention they knew to use the Construction template; if they knew about the need for that, they would know of the other policies as well. And seeing how good their grammar really is, it should be no problem for them to write a quality article.

And there's no proof that these two are Guy's friends. They've only showed up yesterday, haven't been on at all since then, and have less than 15 edits each.--<font style="Matisse ITC">  ~I am the Holder of Om Nom Nom!~  "OM NOM NOM NOM NOM!!" 05:50, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yo.

Sorry Flash, but your girlfriend had to hit the hay, so she asked me to carry on the discussion with you. While I did speak to Ryu on this matter on my chat (See for yourself; some of the comments are gone though >~<), she reached the same conclusion that I (and if I remember correctly, White) came to: Guy is totally bulls**tting you. I asked Ryu to explain the situation to you instead, since she reached the same conclusion as myself on her own, and unlike me or White, you don't believe she has a vendetta against Guy. Regardless of who says it, you can look at the evidence yourself: I mean seriously Flash, look at this! How can that drastic change in grammar and articulate capability not be suspicious?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 06:07, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Onyx the Leo
 * Talk:Onyx the Leo (Needs to be restored)
 * Saber The Leo
 * Roleplay:Elemental Tournament

I'm sorry you had to be the one who had to carry out the ban, Flash. I know you truly want peace and cohabitation, and wanted to see the best in Guy, but... what's happened, has happened. I can assure though that if Guy decides to harass you on another site, I will do everything I can to assist and defend you. He especially better not take this to SNN: if he does, tell me and I'll make him stop in his tracks. You did what you had to do as an admin and bureaucrat: you put aside your personal opinions and carried out a neutral and unbiased punishment. All I ask of you now are two things Flash: don't let Guy harass or manipulate you into going back on your decision. Second, don't forget that you have people who love and care about you, like Ryu and myself, and let your friends help and support you. Okay, Will?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 07:10, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

(pats you on the back) I get it Flash. Believe me, I know how bad it can be dealing with admin responsibilities while stressed. I of all people should be able to understand that, shouldn't I? ;P--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 07:15, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Heh, ouch. Well Flash, I suggest that you ignore the situation from this point on and take care of yourself. If Guy tries to contact you, just ignore him and leave it to the rest of us. You're a crat Flash, but you don't carry the weight of the wiki alone on your back. Remember that, capishe?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 07:19, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

(chuckles) It's alright. "Laughter is the best medicine" after all.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 07:24, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

You need some funny then!! Read!!--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 07:29, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

It at least made you laugh, so that's something. Just don't let this or future issues get to you, and take care of yourself. Ya hear?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 07:54, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Good. Have some faith in your fellow admins and crats (and me XP). I can say for certain that at least one admin will make sure Guy doesn't worm his way out of his ban.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 08:07, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Flash, toss aside that "hope", because I know so.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 08:12, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Flash, trust White. Trust Ryu. They won't let Guy off for what he did. And trust me to make sure neither of them nor Jon or Memph do so ;P--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 08:18, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

.....(tilts head) When did I quote Star Wars?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 08:24, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

ok 2 things 1 I need help spriting some clothes on MS Paint and 2 how do you make the graph like you did for Disornia just now? http&#58;//sonicfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Apallo_The_Hedgehog 08:27, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

.....Dude I've never once watched a whole Star Wars movie, so I didn't even know that line existed.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 08:31, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

I need you to sprite me two pics. One with this pic or Silver being Controlled by Jr. but with cybernetic attachments. (reed the rolepley to know where im commiong from) and a new sprite of Apallo Becuase the one i have looks like crap.http&#58;//sonicfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Apallo_The_Hedgehog 08:41, October 1, 2011 (UTC) and you can teach me how to do some clothes

XD Sorry. But that is a good quote. Anyways, I'm going to hit the sack myself in about 10 or 20 minutes. So just to make sure I've drilled it into your skull enough, leave the aftermath of the issue with Guy to me and the others, and don't let him rile you up or manipulate you into letting him out of the ban. You had to deal the ban despite your personal beliefs over the matter, so you shouldn't have to deal with the rest of it.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 08:46, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Hi
Well hi dere Flashfire. How's it going? Nefereti 12:09, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

It's meh for me. I've only just woken up and there's a heatwave ._. Just at the start of autumn, I was looking forward to getting a cold breeze. I needs updates on everything, who all the admins and bureacrafts are, rules and if people I was close to were banned. :/ Said so in a blog, now just waiting...

Btw, your birthday is one day before mine! Nefereti 12:41, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Guy? Ooh, ouch ._. He was a close friend... but nevermind, I won't get involved with things like that; I'll get in trouble. And, I'd prefer cold cus at least you can warm yourself up. Easier to warm up then cool down for me XP And I'll put my votes in the election. I,myself, wanted to be an admin, but right now I guess isn't the appropriate time. Nefereti 12:56, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Are you serious? That's epic! I planned on making my own fanfic, but I never had the time to. I haven't caught up with it yet; not much time to watch the rest. I'm Blue Team, always have been, always will XP Nefereti 13:07, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Ah Grif. Him and Simmons are the only Reds I like XP Realistically, I would be on Blue team, but I'd prefer to be freelancer. Tex is my favourite of them all XP Nefereti 13:16, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

I heard you have a cold. Even though I don't know you much, hope you get better. Pinkolol16, I love Sonic...  I'm a Proud Sonic Fan   -Who loves Sonic to bits  13:18, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah because i want Silver to look Likr Baby Vegeta. http&#58;//sonicfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Apallo_The_Hedgehog 17:16, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Heyyo."I watch you from nowhere, You see nothing but mystery, "I hide in plain sight. The General of the Greatest Uknown Army, never to be known but known by all." 00:35, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

I made a petition page. Because i was treated unfaily http&#58;//sonicfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Apallo_The_Hedgehog 00:46, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Search the Wiki for teh Petition Pagehttp&#58;//sonicfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Apallo_The_Hedgehog 00:55, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Flash, Memph wants to talk to you tomorrow about Guy's ban. You see.... you told me you were sick and emotionally fragile at the moment. Add that to all the pressure you've been getting on both sides.... I thought all of those factors put together might affect your judgment of the situation. I know full-well how several stressors building up can severely affect how a person behaves and handles stuff (prime example: YOURS TRULY!!). So, while I know you may find this dubious at best, I told Memph, a 100% neutral third party who had not yet been involved in the situation, about the whole thing. I told him to read over all the evidence you were given, and the reasons why Guy's ban is legit. I will admit, the sockpuppeting is actually not true. I spoke to Onyx personally, and to be quite frank he's way too different from Guy. But there are additional, non-coincidental incidents. Back on track, here's exactly what I asked Memph to do: read the evidence, and make a decision. If he agreed with you, then leave it as-is. If he disagreed and decided to reinstate the ban, I asked him to talk to you so he could take the issue off your hands. In the end, Memph decided he needed to hear your reasons for unbanning Guy before he made a final decision himself, and decided to reinstate the ban until he spoke with you about the situation. I realize you may dislike what occured and the course of action I took, but given your current state and current stress-level, I thought asking Memph to go over the evidence himself and give some input would be a good idea. I apologize for doing this while you're already stressed and dealing with plenty of stuff right now, I truly do. But the fact that you're dealing with so much stuff is why I asked Memph to take part. You're sick, you're stressed, and you're feeling lousy, so dealing with this totally on your own really isn't helping you. Again Flash, I'm truly truly sorry about doing this, and I really hope you don't hold it against me or get angry. And sorry about not telling you about this before: my thick head caused me to think maybe Memphis told you already when he didn't, or it would be fine until you get on tomorrow. But then I saw that Guy brought it up to you on SNN, so I thought I should explain to you before you get pissed, or before Guy bites at you. And on that subject: could you please avoid taking SFW issues to SNN? Neither Gen nor myself want this wiki's issues getting onto or affecting Sonic News Network. So, could you and Guy take future discussions to someplace like DA or Xat? Again, REALLY REALLY sorry for doing all of this to you Flash ;~;--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 07:14, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Flash, I saw that you're online... you aren't mad at me or anything, are you...?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 10:02, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Eheh, I was just about to go offline and go to sleep. I was closing down tabs, but before I closed the one with SNN on it (I still like to sometimes check in on SNN, even though it doesn't need me like SFW does), I decided to refresh for a last check on whether or not I needed to do something. I refreshed, and lo and behold, I saw the comments exchanged between you and Guy.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 10:07, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. I stayed up partly to catch InuYasha (either stay up till 2:30am, or try and catch it at 5:30am; I sleep in till noon on the weekends, so I'll stay up later thank you), and partly to make sure that I caught your response and you weren't pissed at me.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 10:11, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

I just stay up ridiculously late and sleep in until past noon. Anyways, I'm sorry I went to Memphis about this Flash. I just thought it would be best for a third party not suffering from a cold and burdened by the entire issue to get involved. Again, sorry; just doing what I thought was best...--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 10:22, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Alright. But I think you should explain your own reasons for undoing the ban to Memphis, so he can get more of the story. Admittedly, I'd like to know as well: Guy wasn't sockpuppeting, but he lead those two to the wiki and allowed them to troll the wiki, being completely negligent about explaining policies about behavior to these people. There was also his vicious defense of the articles that even went so far as to insult other Users, threaten me, then threaten Jon when he deleted the articles. Even without sockpuppeting on the list, that's a good few offenses. Particularly for a long-time User and ex-admin who should know better.

....Come to think of it Flash, could you just explain on my talkpage? Then I can link it to Memph, save you two the trouble of dealing with differing timezones and schedules, give Memph his explanation, then prevent you from having to repeat yourself and continue dealing with this whole mess.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 10:32, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

I can't fit anymore manga on my bookshelves anymore! :D I have 5 Dragon Ball Z books and like 55 Naruto books. Do you read manga? Or just watch the anime? <font color="Orange">DBZ  for the  <font color="Orange">Win!!!  16:10, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Well the context of the articles is also quite different. The "more laughable" part of the wiki is made up of people who earnestly work on their articles, just not getting the best results. They don't make articles with poorly made recolors and grammar not befitting a ten-year-old on purpose. As I said, I talked to Onyx: while later in the conversation he showed an actual willingness to help the wiki improve, in the beginning he called the whole wiki a joke, and insulted characters on this wiki. My point is that Guy was totally negligent in this situation: it was clear his friends were trolling, and as the person who brought them here he should have stopped them and explained it was wrong. But he didn't: instead, he encouraged it, and insulted and threatened those who wanted to get rid of the articles. But well, that's my POV.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 18:23, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Okay Flash, Memph made his decision: he decided that while Guy didn't sockpuppet, he DID take part in the trolling, which is a serious offense. Especially for a long-time User and ex-admin. So the ban stays. Memph doesn't intend to change his mind, and I know you'll respect his decision. So, I just have this to say: just say the word, and as an SNN admin I will make Guy leave you alone. It wasn't your decision to reinstate the ban, so you shouldn't have to deal with his hate. So if you don't want him harassing you, I'll make sure he doesn't.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 21:31, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Flash, could you come onto my Xat? White wants to talk to you. But ATM, he doesn't really wanna be on SFW.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 02:27, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, wanna continue our RP on DA?"I watch you from nowhere, You see nothing but mystery, "I hide in plain sight. The General of the Greatest Uknown Army, never to be known but known by all." 02:52, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Cool."I watch you from nowhere, You see nothing but mystery, "I hide in plain sight. The General of the Greatest Uknown Army, never to be known but known by all." 02:54, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Flash? Back on chat?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 04:47, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

yeah we get it

alirght alright besides it was mistake no ones perfect

let's just drop it i take the blame

kay

Herro, I is at college naow. Just wanted to say I love you ^^ <3

Also, did you see Toxic's talkpage recently?--<font style="Matisse ITC">  ~I am the Holder of Om Nom Nom!~  "OM NOM NOM NOM NOM!!" 11:55, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Cool, and I just got two more manga books yesterday, and now my bookshelf is creaking! I had to move half of them to the floor until I find a place to put them all. Well, see ya! <font color="Orange">DBZ  for the  <font color="Orange">Win!!!  19:49, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Flash, get on my chat the instant you get online and get this message. I have something you'll want to hear. Whether or not you'll believe it... that's something else.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 02:04, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Guyvirth told me to tell you my problem. Last week end on friday a chat moderator names Shernathehedgehog (or something) was harrassing me when i was talking to a friend about what happened to me earlier that day only because she was pissed off at me for no resion (i think she cursed me out too). (I do not remember what she did but to get a possible better story ask Markakramgirgis (the other user who is kinda new here that also has a problem with the moderator) and then (around the same time later that night or the next night ask Mark) she banned my friend Bluray Orgionals only because he was annoying her (him?) but Bluray was only talking (get the story from Bluray himself) or something but he wasent doing anything to the moderater. but befor that she was cursing and twunting that she/he doesent have to follow the rules and stuff. Then i accidently pasted the word Bitch after she banned Bluray on the chat un cencered by accident and forgot to say so before i closed out the chat page without looking at what i put then i went back on and then she banned me. I know it sounds like what i did was wrong but if i were to say it was an accident then she (he?) wont even care. I dont think they like me at all. but this shows that this Chat Moderator is abousing thier powers and being powercrazy. Pleas talk to Markakramgirgis, and Bluray Orgionals about it thank you. http&#58;//sonicfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Apallo_The_Hedgehog 19:16, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry for the short notice. But, I'd like my adminship removed. If you need to know why, check here. I'm not as depressed...actually, Memph's reveal made me feel alot better, but I'm still not interested in staying here anymore. So, please remove my adminship, seeing as Ryu and Memph both refused. -_- Death's Little Pony We Ride! 00:17, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

i might have gotten the name wronghttp&#58;//sonicfanon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Apallo_The_Hedgehog 03:39, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

I g2g to bed now. G'night, Will, ILU <3 [hugs]--<font style="Matisse ITC">  ~I am the Holder of Om Nom Nom!~  "OM NOM NOM NOM NOM!!" 03:46, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

So, whats up?"I watch you from nowhere, You see nothing but mystery, "I hide in plain sight. The General of the Greatest Uknown Army, never to be known but known by all." 03:51, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Cool. I see your still on DA."I watch you from nowhere, You see nothing but mystery, "I hide in plain sight. The General of the Greatest Uknown Army, never to be known but known by all." 03:57, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Didn't know. Sorry."I watch you from nowhere, You see nothing but mystery, "I hide in plain sight. The General of the Greatest Uknown Army, never to be known but known by all." 04:02, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

'Kay. Your turn, BTW. =)"I watch you from nowhere, You see nothing but mystery, "I hide in plain sight. The General of the Greatest Uknown Army, never to be known but known by all." 04:08, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Flash, chat? Wanna chat (of course) and ask you a question. Nothin big though.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 06:03, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Any is fine SonamyLover68

Hey, I know it's already a little ways in, but could I maybe get in on Gender Switch? It's been interesting me for a while, and I left a message on the talkpage to join, but got no response. What do you say? My function is not my purpose.  My purpose is to complete my function.   ~Xi  01:56, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Relieved
ah,god,yes! now I don't have to be alone on here*shudder*I hate absolute silence

hehe,that's okay.It's about 5 a.m. where I'm at^^

'Eyyo."I watch you from nowhere, You see nothing but mystery, "I hide in plain sight. The General of the Greatest Uknown Army, never to be known but known by all." 14:37, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hey flash, thanks for approving my idea of a court trial I can't wait to use wright in a case for once, but anyways I plan either making a prosociter, or getting church (an rvb character who technically works for G.U.N but affiliated with blue team, unless you want kp to have his prosecutor character, or you have an idea yourself, only factor I need in it is he must toss coffee at wright's head. ^^; it won't matter much though, but I appreciate you for liking my idea. Tails  6000  (<font color="Black">Feel the power, of <font color="Gold">TOASTY! ) 15:50, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

I g2g to bed now. *hugs* Nigh, Will. I love you ^^

And maybe, sometime we can set up a TP that shows HOW Toxic got his fear of Beheeyem >=3--<font style="Matisse ITC">  ~I am the Holder of Om Nom Nom!~  "OM NOM NOM NOM NOM!!" 04:59, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Flash, think we could TP/RP, and/or go on chat? Helluva bored guy right here.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 06:03, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Spongebob100: Excuse me, but User:420 smoke weed negro philosopher is ruining the pages of everyone, you gotta stop him before he causes too much damage

Spongebob100: Ohhhhh, sorry about that, but I stopped him for you & the other Users

Spongebob100: Your welcome, cause that's what friends are for, they help each other

Spongebob100: Ok, thanks

Wanna cntinue our RP on DA? If your busy it's okay.

I made sonic versions of the characters if I remember, but good point, but yeah I could also get SARGE to do it, he was in the agricultural courts from what he said in season 4, :P but yeah I'll try to ask kags to see if we can use status for a military prosecutor. It'd be interesting too... Just hope he can throw coffee at wright's face. :P Tails  6000  (<font color="Black">Feel the power, of <font color="Gold">TOASTY! ) 15:42, October 13, 2011 (UTC)